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Geo tracker same as Vitara clutch issue

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#1 ·
Hey Guys. I got a 1996 Geo Tracker 2x2 wagon I think is the same as the Vitara.
I've fixed everything on it but this.
The clutch works fine on the five speed but after it's depressed it only returns to the point of disengaging and doesn't come back up like the clutch bearing is free but still riding on the clutch plate but with no real pressure so it doesn't slip and shifts fine but it's super annoying that it won't return to the same height off the floor as the brake pedal.

Could it be that there is a disconnected spring in the clutch pedal assembly? I saw a YouTube video where there was one above. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thank you
 
#3 ·
Hey Guys. I got a 1996 Geo Tracker 2x2 wagon I think is the same as the Vitara.
I've fixed everything on it but this.
The clutch works fine on the five speed but after it's depressed it only returns to the point of disengaging and doesn't come back up like the clutch bearing is free but still riding on the clutch plate but with no real pressure so it doesn't slip and shifts fine but it's super annoying that it won't return to the same height off the floor as the brake pedal.

Could it be that there is a disconnected spring in the clutch pedal assembly? I saw a YouTube video where there was one above. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thank you
Have you tried pulling up on the pedal to see if there is actually any more travel?
If there is no more travel, obviously it has already reached full return travel and will not move further. There may be an adjustable stop bolt under the dash where the pedal is mounted and if I remember correctly, there is a pretty stiff return spring there, as well.
Been a while since I’ve inspected under there.
 
#4 ·
Hey Guys. I got a 1996 Geo Tracker 2x2 wagon I think is the same as the Vitara.
I've fixed everything on it but this.
The clutch works fine on the five speed but after it's depressed it only returns to the point of disengaging and doesn't come back up like the clutch bearing is free but still riding on the clutch plate but with no real pressure so it doesn't slip and shifts fine but it's super annoying that it won't return to the same height off the floor as the brake pedal.

Could it be that there is a disconnected spring in the clutch pedal assembly? I saw a YouTube video where there was one above. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thank you
Fordem’s post beat me by a few seconds.... as you can see, there is a return spring at the pedal, but actually small and just to keep the pedal at disengaged position.
Pretty sure there is a heavier one underneath at the bell housing to pull the clutch fork back, also
 
#5 · (Edited)
The pedal can be pulled back up with the tip of the foot but it does not return past the point of disengaging the clutch.
I don't see how the spring you point to can be functional to return the pedal to the full upright position. The diagram shows a spring that would pull the pedal toward the floor but not the driver. Not sure what Im missing here but I will go look at it to see if that spring is missing. I'm wondering if it could be a different set up being that it's a wagon and a tracker. I saw in a video where there was a heavy spring located in the upper housing designated as #34 in the above diagram but it was a regular 96 short base Geo tracker.
 
#9 ·
Thanks everyone for your replies. Yes the clutch pedal can be pulled to the upright position but then it just falls back down to the point of nearly engaging the clutch if not held up. The clutch otherwise works normally. It does return to the position where the throwout bearing is about to engage the clutch basket but not all the way up where it is supposed to be unless it's pulled up. Thanks
 
#10 ·
Hope I didn't offend you with my comments / suggestions... I think you answered your inquiry with your last bit of info "it just falls back down...if not held up". That return spring under the dash is either broken, disconnected or it was removed by a previous owner and never re-installed.
From what I've heard, it's really difficult to get it back in.... almost ZERO room to get your hands in there from under dash.
 
#16 ·
OK thanks, yeah in the video the guy has the dash totally removed. I'm not looking forward to removing a dash. Here is the video in case anyone is in need of watching it.
Ok looks like I'm totally missing the plastic bushings on both sides. This is where I start cussing like Fred Flintstone also I might have a pedal that has been rewelded in the wrong position for that rod that slips in the tube which means a lot of work. Let me know if you guys agree. I suppose that's why there is so much slop in the pedal! Drive it till it breaks? Crap crap crap! Maybe it's just the bushing on the right side? Grrrrrrrrf!!!!
 
#13 ·
Here is the only place I could find to buy a new spring for $17. Not sure what the shipping would be. No Chevy dealers seem to have any parts at all for these Trackers and claim they can't even order them. One fella I found was ordering me parts from Japan for the timing belt components. The strange thing is that this tracker only has 88,000 original miles but must have had a moron as a previous owner. It was hacked in several areas. Once I complete this problem it should be a good little Tracker once more. Even has hardly any rust under it.
Geo Tracker Spring. Engine clutch fork return. Spring, clu ped pull bk - 91174774 | Wholesale GM Parts Online, Louisville KY

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Huge Thank You to all that responded. Guess a warm day will be needed to tackle this cause it's really cold out in my location right now. I have three Trackers and live the Suzuki that it actually is. Thanks Again!
 
#14 ·
Here is the only place I could find to buy a new spring for $17. Not sure what the shipping would be. No Chevy dealers seem to have any parts at all for these Trackers and claim they can't even order them. One fella I found was ordering me parts from Japan for the timing belt components. The strange thing is that this tracker only has 88,000 original miles but must have had a moron as a previous owner. It was hacked in several areas. Once I complete this problem it should be a good little Tracker once more. Even has hardly any rust under it.
Geo Tracker Spring. Engine clutch fork return. Spring, clu ped pull bk - 91174774 | Wholesale GM Parts Online, Louisville KY

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Huge Thank You to all that responded. Guess a warm day will be needed to tackle this cause it's really cold out in my location right now. I have three Trackers and live the Suzuki that it actually is. Thanks Again!
Morning, batmmmann....not to stretch this thread out , but in meantime if you have any salvage yards close by, check them out. Odds are you'll find another spring that will work... doesn't have to be exactly like the original, mainly long enough to allow full pedal travel.
So long as there is no constant pressure on the clutch pedal, the throw-out bearing or pressure plate won't sustain any abnormal wear.
BTW, in one of my earlier posts I mentioned that there is another spring at the bell-housing....NOT ON THESE CARS, my mistake!!!
Some other domestic brands I've worked on in the past had them, but they were actuated by solid linkages, not cables.
Have a safe day!
 
#15 · (Edited)
Thank you. I got in there and looked at it. The spring is attached and it looks to me like someone rewelded the upper rod that crosses in the tubular sleeve that attaches to the arm that grabs the cable. Like I said the car had several crappy hacks on it such as no tensioner on the timing belt, no timing belt cover etc.
I made a video. It's drivable but annoying. Perhaps the square tip of the crossing rod is stripped enough to allow play but it doesn't appear to have any slippage there. The pedal was welded at the pivot point perhaps in slightly the wrong position? Not sure but the rod inside the tube seems to be very loose inside the tube like the tube is too large for it but the nut is tight. There is vertical slop in the tube as you can see. The rod moves up and down in the tube instead of rotating in a tight alignment. Also the cable end is up against the firewall before it starts to pull it so I see no adjustment there. Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks

 
#18 · (Edited)
Yep this might be a case of drive it till it breaks way too much trouble to make it right. Looks like some bozo just reached up there after the bushings broke out and the weld let go slipped the pedal and rod out a bit and then stick welded the rod to the pedal from the inside side rather than the outside where the weld is supposed to be in a slightly wrong position and didn't bother to put any new bushings in at all. You can drive it though... Bwa Hahaha where are these guys when you discover what they did so you can add an assault charge to your troubles. I want to slap someone!
 
#22 ·
Just as an aside to all of this, don’t search for your parts using Geo Tracker. As you’ve learned, it’s no longer supported. You are driving a rebadged 1996 Suzuki Sidekick, and will have much better luck searching that way. The entire parts catalog is here, along with diagrams. Sometimes searching using the OEM part number helps your search: