[glowworm]

I'm hoping that it has to do with the oil getting inside that clip, just a matter of finding out *how* the oil got there.

 

[glowworm]

Well, some good & bad news on my Sidekick.... Most likely it's the pickup coil (ignitor) but finding just that piece without having to buy the whole distributor is where I'm having problems now.

 

[glowworm]

Ignition coil & relay, there are after-market parts for. The pickup coil in the distributor itself seems to be the problem & the only way to get it is with the entire distributor. I finally found a part number. (not the one I was looking for) and going to call for a cross reference to see what other vehicles may have used that particular distributor (which happens to be a Mitsubishi part).

 

[Darrell.]

Something like this......

 

[glowworm]

Yes! That's the critter causing me headaches right now! Finding just that here in the states, even at scrap yards, has proven to be highly improbable. Everybody wants to sell me the whole distributor and some places have even suggested that once this part goes out, typically something else will go wrong with the distributor itself (which is not the case with Chevy or Fords). What's the US dollar amount? Where do I need to go to get that? Will they ship international? And how quick can I get it?

 

[Bex]

Excuse my ignorance, but from the above, it appears that this part is the same as what is connected on the firewall of the 8v models. My igniter is not in my distributor, but is just under the ignition coil. The above seems to indicate that the 8v and 16v part for this is the same. Suzuki still sells this (for about $500) but, if it is the case that the 8v part is compatible, you should be able to find this on an 8v in a junkyard, sitting right on the firewall, without having to deal with the distributor at all.

 

[Rhinoman]

Just Google for J811 ignition module, there is one on eBay:

j811 ignition | eBay

 

[Rhinoman]

Are you looking for one with the three-pin plug or the five-pin?

 

[Rhinoman]

Excuse my ignorance, but from the above, it appears that this part is the same as what is connected on the firewall of the 8v models. My igniter is not in my distributor, but is just under the ignition coil.

On your 97 both the igniter and coil will be built into the distributer.

 

[Max]

See also, complete re-man distributors for $122 at RockAuto.

 

[glowworm]

Bex, it's all good. When a person gets used to a certain type of vehicle, it happens.
Rhinoman, I don't have $500 to drop in this poor thing, especially when I can get the whole distributor for about $205 new (well, re-manned).
I'm going to do a little more research & see what else I can come up with. The guy at the local mitsubishi dealership said that if I could find a good part number, he should be able to cross-reference it & give me more options.

 

[Rhinoman]

Rhinoman, I don't have $500 to drop in this poor thing, especially when I can get the whole distributor for about $205 new (well, re-manned).

The one I linked to (3-pin) is $45.

 

[Bex]

The Suzuki part number for the igniter, whether in the 1995 8v or 16v, within or outside the distributor is 33370-54A50. Again, if you can find an 8v in the junkyard, the igniter is sitting right on the firewall, next to the ignition coil, and easily pulled without having to take the entire distributor.....

 

[Darrell.]

This gets more confusing the more times I read it .
Would either components take out the fuse in question ??
The ignitor is on the bulkhead. (Well most of them ?)
The pick-up sensor is in the distributor.

The diagram I originally used showed the B/W wire going to the noise suppressor which I assumed fed the ignitor and this diagram does not.
Further investigation in my workshop manuals also do not show the B/W going to the noise suppressor. I have to assume the original diagram is not correct

 

[Bex]

On the 8v at least, the black/white wire feeds the ignition coil, which, in turn feeds the igniter through the brown/white wire (coming out of the ignition coil). The ig-coil fuse covers the ignition coil, so yes, this would all be part of the same circuit.....

 

[glowworm]

It seems we're all learning something new in dealing with this. I gave up the search for just the ignitor because I'm running out of time. The poor car's been down since December and I've tinkered with it as time & weather would allow. After spending 6 hours one day last week looking for that little component, I gave up & just bought a new distributor. The mechanic will put it in tomorrow & should be able to pick up my Rudolph (there's a reason for the name, I promise) on Wednesday. I will still post the promised pictures and even an extra one to show you guys who you helped with this struggle.

 

[Bex]

Sorry you were unable to find the igniter on its own. I actually have two of these, and after reading your thread, will make sure that I take good care of my spare. Thank goodness for parts cars - it's like having a Suzuki shop in your garage.....

 

[Rhinoman]

I doubt if the igniter is the problem because it is not directly connected to the 12V supply.

 

[glowworm]

Well, the mechanic just called..... That's not the problem either.... Him & I, both, have pulled every component on that circuit & it's still doing it.... I now believe that it's in the wiring even though I haven't found any cracks or breaks any where when I checked.

 

[aquanaut20]

Hate being repetitive/redundant,

Get your mechanic to use a Non Destructive tone generator, connect to system side of F1 fuse, follow the tone , no need to open looms...

Guessing is only costing you $$$ and time...

.... Philip