[welikedill]

The turn signals & the hazards are on page 10 of the diagrams, they are fed from different fuses (#16 & #19), the only thing common to both is the turn signal "relay", the hazard light switch and the lamps/wiring. Start by checking the fuses in the interior fuse panel, make sure both are good, if they are bad, check the bulbs as the next step before replacing them.

Ignore the PTC fuse for now, it's not a critical item.

Thanks mate. Checked fuses and will do again, bulbs are good afaik and will try to find a way to check ... the blinker indicators do not show up on the dash and no blinker lights come on with the blinker lever in the on position for each direction

 

[welikedill]

So the PTC fuse blows as soon as you a fuse in there, even if the key is not on, correct?
And now that you put that ramp fuse back in the ‘lamp’ slot, do your lights, etc., now work?

Either upon being put in or when car is started, have to determine... raining now and don't want to have the hood open

What does it mean when fuse blows when put in vs when car starts..

 

[fordem]

It's called the combination switch, and that would/should not prevent the hazards from working.

 

[welikedill]

It's called the combination switch, and that would/should not prevent the hazards from working.

Which one is the combination switch..?

 

[fordem]

#4 is the combination switch - wipers, turn signals, light switch, and I'm not certain if the 95 includes the hazard light switch as a part of that.

 

[welikedill]

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#4 is the combination switch - wipers, turn signals, light switch, and I'm not certain if the 95 includes the hazard light switch as a part of that.

Ok great thank you very much for this
The wipers work thankfully
Am going to try two things: the basic fix of pushing relay fuse under dash in its not sitting flat and seeing if blinker lever can be fixed

 

[welikedill]

Which one is the combination switch..?
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Got it

 

[welikedill]

It's called the combination switch, and that would/should not prevent the hazards from working.

They don't work.. nor do the blinkers.. everything else is back to working ...

 

[Bex]

Rather than immediately deciding that it’s the ‘lever’ on the steering column that’s the issue, I would be testing the turn signal relay, and the wiring to it, which runs the blinkers/hazards.

 

[welikedill]

Hop le everyone's doing ok
Been to three mechanics and it may take hours to figure out which is too costly so going to keep tracking the source of the fail

PTC 30A fuse blows on startup still

Last mechanic said a fault in one turn signal light could cause them all to fail; he doesn't think it's the blinker control arm off the steering wheel as the part that pup chewed is end of the arm where the lights are modulated - the end piece moves forward and back separate from the rest of the arm . . Also he pushed the flasher relay all the way in, still no blinkers / hazards

 

[welikedill]

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Rather than immediately deciding that it’s the ‘lever’ on the steering column that’s the issue, I would be testing the turn signal relay, and the wiring to it, which runs the blinkers/hazards.

You mean the flasher relay behind the fuse box?

 

[Bex]

Look at page 10 of your wiring diagram. For example, there is a yellow/blue wire that is part of the turn signal and the hazard light circuit. You advised that when you turn on the hazards, you get a loud noise, and also that your blinkers do not work, correct? They are all fed by the yellow/blue wire (as well as the relay near your fuse panel. I’d check the wiring for that circuit.
However, you will also notice, with regard to your mechanic advising that if one turn signal light fails, it could cause them all to fail, that each of the turn signals is fed by a different wire….green/red and green/yellow. In order for all the turn signals to fail because of one light, it would have to be fed by a wire that is common to both circuits.

 

[Bex]

Your EFE circuit is listed on page 8 of the diagrams. It shows the white wire coming from the 30amp fuse, controlling the switch in the EFE relay. The yellow/black wire runs directly to the EFE heater with apparently no splices or connectors. I cannot tell from the diagram where the white/blue or yellow/red wires feed to. But there is something in that circuit (whether the wiring or the relay or the heater itself) that’s causing that 30 amp fuse to blow.

 

[Bex]

The yellow/red goes to the A11 connector in your ECU. The white/blue goes to the injector resistor. If you go to page 7, and follow #4 and 5, you can see the circuit.

 

[welikedill]

Found this thread for a 1995 geo metro re PTC fuse

https://community.cartalk.com/t/ptc-fuse/3748

 

[welikedill]

Look at page 10 of your wiring diagram. For example, there is a yellow/blue wire that is part of the turn signal and the hazard light circuit. You advised that when you turn on the hazards, you get a loud noise, and also that your blinkers do not work, correct? They are all fed by the yellow/blue wire (as well as the relay near your fuse panel. I’d check the wiring for that circuit.
However, you will also notice, with regard to your mechanic advising that if one turn signal light fails, it could cause them all to fail, that each of the turn signals is fed by a different wire….green/red and green/yellow. In order for all the turn signals to fail because of one light, it would have to be fed by a wire that is common to both circuits.

👍👍👍 Going to go at it with this info and checking for EFE fuse tomorrow, will update
Thank you mate ***

 

[welikedill]

Rather than immediately deciding that it’s the ‘lever’ on the steering column that’s the issue, I would be testing the turn signal relay, and the wiring to it, which runs the blinkers/hazards.

Turn signal relay=flasher relay?

 

[Bex]

LOL….we are learning how to research (you and I). Just for the heck of it, try putting your VIN into the box here on the Suzuki catalog. It will bring up diagrams specific for your car:

Suzuki

I went over to Rockauto to see if I could locate the EFE part, to see what it looks like, but they don’t list it. It would be nice to locate it in a parts diagram.

And yes, the turn signal relay is the flasher relay.

 

[fordem]

#11 - sits between the throttle body (#9) and the manifold (#1)

 

[Bex]

Thanks, Fordem. I went over to Rockauto to see if I could find a photo of it, but all they have is an ‘engine block heater’ which isn’t the part (it plugs into 120v). Is there a photo of this thing, or it’s connector? The advice over on that Geo Metro forum of unplugging the heater and then seeing if that 30amp fuse blows might be a good suggestion.