[Bex]

Look at page 16. Brake light, headlights, horn, etc…..all work off of a 40 amp fuse (that should be next to the 70 amp fuse for the generator. There is no fuse under that 70 amp one, in the photo……????
And by the way, I’m really glad that someone else had to look up EFE, as well. I had no idea what it was…..

 

[welikedill]

Has anybody checked the tail/brake lamps?, not uncommon for a brake filament to fail, drop over the internal stand-offs and short to ground is the result.

Thanks mate will check that

 

[Bex]

Why are there fuses missing under the 70 amp generator fuse??

 

[welikedill]

Omgoodness... lol
Started car and loud buzzing sound coming out near dashboard.. turned car off as I was nervous this was a warning sign. waited a minute and turned car back on and buzzing sound came on. Pushed hazards button which is where the sound is coming from and the sound stopped LOL. Repeated that a few times and the sound would stop when the flashers button was down mind you no flashers turned on. Lol. I drove a little bit to a new parking space and turn the car off. then turn the car back on and no buzzing sound. Put it in first gear and buzzing sound came on. Stepped on the break and buzzing sound turned off. taking foot off the break buzzing sound comes back on. Lol
This is funny!

Link to 1 minute video of above too big to attach

 

[welikedill]

Look at page 16. Brake light, headlights, horn, etc…..all work off of a 40 amp fuse (that should be next to the 70 amp fuse for the generator. There is no fuse under that 70 amp one, in the photo……????
And by the way, I’m really glad that someone else had to look up EFE, as well. I had no idea what it was…..

Re EFE, me neither! lol

 

[welikedill]

Look at page 16. Brake light, headlights, horn, etc…..all work off of a 40 amp fuse (that should be next to the 70 amp fuse for the generator. There is no fuse under that 70 amp one, in the photo……????
And by the way, I’m really glad that someone else had to look up EFE, as well. I had no idea what it was…..

Going to check it now... thank you ****!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[welikedill]

This car is the base model swift, 5 speed manual, no a/c, no ABS, manual windows and door locks, so may be why there are less fuses and relays where there would be some in those spots. The cover for the relay boxes under the hood have labels for each fuse and so there's nothing in the space for the AC, ABS etc

 

[Bex]

Can you upload a photo of the cover for the fusible link box (with the 70 amp fuse) that you photographed? Regarding the hazard light noise, I suspect that might have been turn lamp relay buzzing. It’s located behind the dash in your car, I think. The wiring diagrams that Fordem found can be a bit complicated, but that fusible link box feeds everything, so probably a good place to start, particularly as you have a whole load of things that aren’t working.

 

[fordem]

Ahh - not my diagrams, I think he found those himself.

 

[Bex]

Ahh - not my diagrams, I think he found those himself.

Oops. You’re right. The two avatars look very similar….F and F. I take back my compliment to you of the diagrams being a good find…..

 

[welikedill]

Can you upload a photo of the cover for the fusible link box (with the 70 amp fuse) that you photographed? Regarding the hazard light noise, I suspect that might have been turn lamp relay buzzing. It’s located behind the dash in your car, I think. The wiring diagrams that Fordem found can be a bit complicated, but that fusible link box feeds everything, so probably a good place to start, particularly as you have a whole load of things that aren’t working.

Yes, will do asap wif phone charges enough for flash to work or in daylight tomorrow, getting dark now on east coast
Thank you!!!

 

[welikedill]

Photos of relay and fuse boxes in engine bay

 

[fordem]

I notice the 40A Lamp fuse slot is empty, should we assume that the green fuse in the "unmarked" slot needs to be moved to the lamp slot?

 

[Bex]

If I’m reading this right, the poster says he does not have ABS, so the first empty slot is ok. The last slot on the left is also meant to be empty but the one to the left of it (now empty) is indicated at ‘lamp’. Using his diagram, that lamp fuse runs radio data link connector, clock, tail lights, etc., etc., but at the bottom of the list it says ‘fuel injection main relay’….????

 

[welikedill]

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I notice the 40A Lamp fuse slot is empty, should we assume that the green fuse in the "unmarked" slot needs to be moved to the lamp slot?

This car has no ABS which is why that slot is empty...

It's possible that whoever did the wiring on this car set it up a certain way and it's not the original way... everything worked great for 2 years and 50,000 miles and I'm going to leave the green fuse where it is for now... I didn't move it anywhereI haven't moved any just tested

 

[welikedill]

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I notice the 40A Lamp fuse slot is empty, should we assume that the green fuse in the "unmarked" slot needs to be moved to the lamp slot?

!!!!!!! I STAND CORRECTED!!!!

I must have put that 40 amp fuse back in the wrong spot!!!! I am so tired and have been experiencing heat exhaustion; so we are back to where we started with no blinkers and no hazards but yes to headlights parking lights

Thank you for noticing that very grateful

 

[welikedill]

Also I put another 30A in the PTC slot so it isn't empty... it blew and still in there

 

[Bex]

So the PTC fuse blows as soon as you a fuse in there, even if the key is not on, correct?
And now that you put that ramp fuse back in the ‘lamp’ slot, do your lights, etc., now work?

 

[fordem]

The turn signals & the hazards are on page 10 of the diagrams, they are fed from different fuses (#16 & #19), the only thing common to both is the turn signal "relay", the hazard light switch and the lamps/wiring. Start by checking the fuses in the interior fuse panel, make sure both are good, if they are bad, check the bulbs as the next step before replacing them.

Ignore the PTC fuse for now, it's not a critical item.

 

[welikedill]

So the PTC fuse blows as soon as you a fuse in there, even if the key is not on, correct?
And now that you put that ramp fuse back in the ‘lamp’ slot, do your lights, etc., now work?

Yes.. headlights, parking lights, brake lights, horn all work again thankfully..

Still no blinkers or hazards... thinking it's the lever coming off steering wheel.
Haven't found it eBay or on car-part.com, what would it be listed as- the official part type name, does anyone know?