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the , cars in your region can come from
all over the world, with out the TAG data. you car is "nebulas"

not all assembley plants configure all cars of same year the same way .
28 types ww, and 1 more JDM in japan.

please find your body tag and post it.
 
i need to ID the car.

as i said , there are a huge number 29 of diff VITS running in europe.

that being said, neck far out.....

56B30 is IS TBI MT
56B40 is is TBI AT
and uses our (USA) kind of distributor.

does yours look like mine and it does have a 56B pn on side of disty or the like
see the tag , that tag has the Suz, pn on it, ours does.

see all photos ,all are USA 91 8v
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Definately NOT a 56B40, the Mitsu number on the PCB doesn't match the sticker. It maybe a 56B30 but that PCB was used on a number of variants worldwide. The Mitsu number defines the software and the configuration, I'll have a check in my records later and see if I can match up it up to a Suzuki part number.
 
The Mitsu number cross references to a 33920-56B70, same ECU family but its an EC Manual Transmission specification.
 
same as mine the Mitsu number but we dont have B70 here.
only up to b61 here.
ill look up that in the EU., yes, I see it. F6 searches.

mine with same MITSU pn is b30 or b40 , if forget which, i stripped it so bad.

ok only shows up 2 times B70 in the EPC, as 2dor and 4door type 2 motor. B81 is A/t version and my work for you.

Both times SE series. e1 to 99 skips usa.


Se416
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
Sorry guys,
I was away for some hours......the car is parked in a repair shop, and I cannot go there during the night (here is 0:14 AM) to read the engine tag, and all the possible car ID.....

Tomorrow, I will check that and when you will wake up, you will have it......

Thanks anyway.

Cheers
Eon
 
same as mine the Mitsu number but we dont have B70 here.
The picture you posted clearly shows a different number. I think that you're confusing the part number of the assembled board with the part number of the bare PCB.
 
The 5V regulator circuit should look similar to the pic on the left:
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There shouldn't be any components that are impossible to replace so it should always be repairable. The zener needs to have good stability and a low temperature coefficient to maintain an accurate supply across the rated temperature range.
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
Thanks alot Rhino......
I hope to manage to find the problem.......at leats for
all these good informations I have got from you guys.....

*Your schematics:
To which transitor it refers? Q100?
Because if it is Q100, I tried to follow its base pin, and it goes to
the pin2 of the hybrid IC7, and nowhere else. Only if it is mounted
R2 (which to my board is NC), this connection in addition
to IC7 (pin2) will be connected also to the junction between R235
and D107 cathode....
is that right or am I looking to the wrong board components?


*Body TAG:
I found finally the body tag of the car (in attachment)....

I guess the numbers you were asking for are:

Chassis NO. = 2S3TA01C000515071
Engine = G16A
Market Code= FAE625M22

So in case this board will not come back alive, which PN I shall
look for on the market?

Thanks alot!

Cheers
Eon
 

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Thanks alot Rhino......
I hope to manage to find the problem.......at leats for
all these good information I have got from you guys.....
yes its fun hacking here. for sure. and starves scalpers, yes.

*Your schematics:
To which transistor it refers? Q100?
Because if it is Q100, I tried to follow its base pin, and it goes to
the pin2 of the hybrid IC7, and nowhere else. Only if it is mounted
R2 (which to my board is NC), this connection in addition
to IC7 (pin2) will be connected also to the junction between R235
and D107 cathode....
is that right or am I looking to the wrong board components?
no , i was trying , INEFFECTIVELY to discover Q100 purpose.
and since my IC 10 is missing ( gross incompetence during move)
i can not find the true actual 5vdc reg. but i suspect its on IC10
as one other poster here last week fond a blown trace on IC 10 hybrid.

my test board, stripped of connectors.
had bad PS 5v. and is still bad.
the q100 on my board is good.
but IC10 is missing, and pin14 is 5v pin, and may be the output of the 5vdc PS. (my best guess , lacking the part) sorry





*Body TAG:
I found finally the body tag of the car (in attachment)....

I guess the numbers you were asking for are:

Chassis NO. = 2S3TA01C000515071
Engine = G16A
Market Code= FAE625M22 (MIKE 22 car yes!!!)

So in case this board will not come back alive, which PN I shall
look for on the market?

Thanks alot!

Cheers
Eon
yes , let me research Mike 22 , VITS !

cheers to you and all others.


i will make up a full list off all ECUs used in the genre.

later,

it might be possible to fix your ecu, depends an the real cause
of power loss
1: supply blew up
2: shorted load.
3: blown trace on main board.
 
CAMI made, from Canada to EU.

wow and good. better docs.

as you can see SUZUKI made cars in CAMI (not just CHEV ,gm ,geo)
proof !
thanks for tag, i collect them for others.....

FOUND IT in EPC.
type 2
EC production in CAMI for EURope.
sn 5100000 E22 canvas top product of canada.
bingo's all.
break down 2:
FAE625M22
FAE = canvas+SE416-+ the E= 4door canvas top. (called 5door in EU)
62=1.6L 8v , 5sp tranny
5= JLX grade
and 22 - Market 22 , built to German std.

better we need the number stamped on the ECU main connector
44271T2 ? or the like
 
CAMI made, from Canada to EU.

wow and good. better docs.

as you can see SUZUKI made cars in CAMI (not just CHEV ,gm ,geo)
proof !
thanks for tag, i collect them for others.....

FOUND IT in EPC.
type 2
EC production in CAMI for EURope.
sn 5100000 E22 canvas top product of canada.
bingo's all.
break down 2:
FAE625M22
FAE = canvas+SE416-3dr+ the E= 4door canvas top. (called 5door in EU)
62=1.6L 8v , 5sp tranny
5= JLX grade
and 22 - Market 22 , built to German std.
now find ECU.


60A70 , is japan made ECU. ( yes)
56B30 is cami made. quote MT E22 product of canada.

so i was right ,same ECU. and is ubiquitous here, vast number exist in N.America.
ebay using USA prefix.

i will capture your page and post it next .
this car is indexed as SE416- 10 ( 1 of 28)
shows 12 throttle bodies word wide this model , wow.
i looked at smog page and its same as 91 here
and same EGR, and VSVs, only one smog page, a good sign.
I think 56B30 is a GO.

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in the world of vits. all this era and (non USA we have only 1, blissful huh)

there are 3 type motors. or more.

carb
TBI flavors. some of these have diffr, Distributors. ( a warning)

and MPI.

The v code on my EPC page is V - van 4dr (here) 5dr ROTW (rest of the world)
the C code is canvas, rag top 2 door. 2 dr (ROTW)

the E codes are markets.

that should help you under stand the EPC> (electronics parts cat)
 
we can find you a spare ECU.

I think the canada 56b30 will run in your car, I do.
best i can tell.
i can peel an onion only so far. hope this helps in some small way.
 
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