[orangeute338]

hi, just wondering if anyone has any info about the 3.2

just for interest sake, what i can gather it is similar to the holden alloy tec 3.6v6 in the holdens?

doing a quick search i have found the cam cover gasket kit suits both engines and the water pump also

Product Line: GMB water pumps, Made in Japan
Part #: W5000
Condition: New
Application: Holden 3.2L, 3.6L alloytec
Application: Suzuki N32A 3.2L
Contents: Pump and Gasket

so that would mean a 3.6ltr v6 out of a holden might be able to be bolted upto suzuki chassis and gearbox...

that motor in the us came in cadillac that was twin turbo, so there must be turbo engine internals around so in theory if stuff bolted up we should have a super tuff turbo engine in the zook

then maybe just maybe a 3.2 front subframe could be bolted to a swb with a 3.6 holden v6 for something a little wild

 

[*Kiwi]

Info on the twin turbo from GM:

All-New-420-Horsepower-Cadillac-Twin-Turbo-V6-Engine-Most-Power-Dense-in-Midsize-Luxury-Segment

 

[onealtnt]

the xl-7 had a 3.6L (LY7), the same HFV6 by GM
Might need an xl-7 chassis for the sake of the engine bay space, unless it would fit in the Prestige NGV

General Motors High Feature engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[orangeute338]

i think it would just be a tiny bit higher deck height or maybe bigger bore for the extra cc. being 60deg motor more deck height wouldnt matter to much.

i am fairly sure the auto is the toyota family a750f which would mean should be able to built it pretty tuff if needed.

something to keep in mind for future projects, thinking a turbo territory ghia would probably be better to start with about the same price as a 3.2 vitara and already turbo and tuff. plus have software to tune then so easy easy. like to be different tho so vitara with 300rwkw would be wild and 300kg less then terry too

 

[orangeute338]

little bit more of update about the v6

it has same stroke as the Holden 3.6 but the 3.6 has 5mm bigger bore

also the compression ratio is 10.0:1 where as the 3.6 is 10.2:1

have seen superchargers and turbos put on the 3.6 so the Suzuki with little bit lower comp should be fine with some boost. being same stroke and pretty much same kw for both motors i would take a guess and say that both would run similar size strength rods.

also the 190kw vz commodore had the 5speed auto which when compared to the suzuki gear ratios/diff ratios/tire dia they are fairly close in km/h at 6000rpm its only 4th which is a bit higher for the commodore. so performance wise they should be fairly similar to the commodore with similar power(they are a tad heavier but having awd might help in traction)

300rwhp zook is the next project, the 2ltr has served me well but has its limits. heavy duty clutch is struggling with 18psi and manual isnt good for 1/4 mile times

 

[FirstTimeMods]

@orangute338 how's this project coming along?

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[Maccamillion]

I would love to see an update on this. I have an '09 prestige and just cooked my engine. Thermo's failed and I had the car idling and yea...But I was looking at dropping a VE 3.6 into her for a bit of an upgrade and the motors looks near on identicle. I'd have to change the intake manifold and timing cover for the additional cam sensors(4 in zuk, only 2 in VE), but is their anything else I'd have to do? any help I would greatly appreciate. 😁

 

[V62D]

I would love to see an update on this. I have an '09 prestige and just cooked my engine. Thermo's failed and I had the car idling and yea...But I was looking at dropping a VE 3.6 into her for a bit of an upgrade and the motors looks near on identicle. I'd have to change the intake manifold and timing cover for the additional cam sensors(4 in zuk, only 2 in VE), but is their anything else I'd have to do? any help I would greatly appreciate. 😁

Did you fit the VE 3.6 into your GV ?

 

[Maccamillion]

Did you fit the VE 3.6 into your

sorry for the late response. didnt get a notification for your reply.
i never ended up doing the swap. turns out despite mine overheating half dozen times on the way home, it actually survived. new thermos and flushed the radiator and she is still running as good as the day i got her. a bloody durable engine for sure.

 

[V62D]

sorry for the late response. didnt get a notification for your reply.
i never ended up doing the swap. turns out despite mine overheating half dozen times on the way home, it actually survived. new thermos and flushed the radiator and she is still running as good as the day i got her. a bloody durable engine for sure.

Thanks for the reply. I've had my GV for 12 months now. The 3.2 is a GM designed engine made in Japan. Suzuki made lots of changes. I just changed front & rear diffs to 3.7 . Fitting twin exhaust at the moment . I won't swap it for the Commodore engine but I'm sure it could be done if you have the time & money.

 

[Maccamillion]

Yea one of my next things is modifying the exhaust too. I hate how it passes under the gearbox. When you get bellied up on a hump, it pushes the box up and I can't shift gear. Was going to have the pipe cross over under the back of the transfer case instead. Just wish there was a good place to route them through the rear frame.

 

[V62D]

There is room either side of the gearbox to fit twin pipes & join 2 to 1 at end of transfer. The V6 rear muffler don't fit my SWB. I used the 2.4 rear exhaust. That's why I'm fitting the twin system to let it breathe.

 

[Maccamillion]

Yea it's the rear sub frame under the rear diff that sucks. There doesn't seem to be a good spot where the pipe won't get hit on rocks and such.
I was thinking of maybe using a 50mm section of thick wall pipe or double layer exhaust on the exposed bit to give it some strength. Should make it a bit harder to squash if I go over a rock or dirt rutt.

 

[V62D]

I was thinking of a bash plate bolted to the diff or subframe

 

[Maccamillion]

Yea I had the same though. Only issue is it would lower the clearance a little more and add a bit more weight. That may be my plan B maybe 😅.

 

[V62D]

The single pipe is 63mm , that's one of the reasons I'm using twin 50mm . There is no good fix . For me I have to change it. The 2.4 muffler & pipe is not big enough

 

[Maccamillion]

Yea. One issue as well is the muffler is heavy, a tight fit and cops a few whacks in the stock location. So I'm also thinking of getting a glass packed muffler and fitting it to the side of the drive shaft and just making a tail pipe for the rear. Will decide more when I get it on the hoist and actually do something with it. At the moment there is more talk than action 🤣

 

[V62D]

I have a hoist & my car is on it now , just finished replacing diffs & hope to have exhaust finished soon. If I can figure out how to send a photo, I'll send you one when it's finished

 

[Maccamillion]

Oh that would be awesome mate. Would love to see the progress.

 

[Chrissybabe88!]

Please post it up here as I am interested.
Area of the pipes is 2 x 50mm = about 4000sq mm, 63mm about 3100 and a 75mm about 4400. A 70mm pipe would probably do since cylinders aren't all blowing at the same time. Mine is so quiet with the standard muffler I have been known to get out and wondered why the key won't lock it - because the engine is still running. Mind you I am a little hard of hearing.