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Interestingly I've now enlarged the scan and that mark does appear to be different to the ticks above and below... View attachment 101465
Unfortunately it's now more difficult to get servicing prices on the Suzuki site. From the info I have - the 3 year service was around £30 more than the 1st year reflecting the fitting of a new pollen filter. If a coolant change was necessary at 3 years this would add a further £60+ to the 3 year service - this isn't the case. I suggest that they may have topped up the level but didn't change the coolant
 
Thanks, it's the non-pressurized type (what else should we expect from a "budget" car). As mentioned before - high (maximum) level is marked for when hot and that is the only accurate marker. So if you look at it when it is cold and don't understand the physics of it - you will either be running to a workshop telling them there is a problem they need to fix ("Take my money!") or top it up and it leaks out back to normal or just above capacity at op temp.
 
Modern, high quality coolants are loaded with inhibitors and provided you stick to the original fill coolant, there should be no need to flush the system before refill. Indeed the Ignis service sheet and maintenance section of the Suzuki workshop manual simply calls for drain and refill at the prescribed interval. The prescribed Suzuki coolant is only available in the 50% solution form so if you want to fill with an alternative coolant then you should follow the flushing and refilling procedure above.
And we have now come full circle - this discussion was started because the Suzuki dealer told the original poster than the prescribed Suzuki coolant was not available and they should use a universal coolant.
 
First - it took me less than 10 seconds to find a supplier in the UK selling undiluted coolant - the very first web site I went to, and out of eighteen offerings, eight were undiluted, roughly 50%, so undiluted coolant appears to be readily available.

Here's the scenario - you have no coolant on hand, the cooling system is low, are you going to top it up with water, or are you going to take your own advice, never top it up with water and risk overheating the engine and possible damage?
You wouldn't need to try very hard to buy coolant or antifreeze in the uk. You'll find it sold at most petrol stations, car parts shops, Halfords and even Tesco. I would never suggest driving a car with the coolant below the low mark in the overflow bottle - modern cylinder heads and gaskets have very little tolerance against overheating. Never routinely add water to the cooling system but if it's an emergency then needs must and all that.
 
Never routinely add water to the cooling system but if it's an emergency then needs must and all that.
Now that's a recommendation I can agree with ...

You wouldn't need to try very hard to buy coolant or antifreeze in the uk. You'll find it sold at most petrol stations, car parts shops, Halfords and even Tesco. I would never suggest driving a car with the coolant below the low mark in the overflow bottle - modern cylinder heads and gaskets have very little tolerance against overheating.
Not everyone reading this is in the UK, and, at least where I am, petrol stations are not on every other street corner.
 
Now that's a recommendation I can agree with ...



Not everyone reading this is in the UK, and, at least where I am, petrol stations are not on every other street corner.
But the question was asked by someone in the UK so I answered from an UK perspective. I note that it was you who continued the UK perspective with your internet search for UK coolant suppliers. Readers from outside the UK can pick what they want from various postings and localise the debate. It's not in my nature to be rude to anyone but I do find you cantankerous and someone who always wants the last word. I always thought that a moderator was there to ensure everyone played nice together!
 
Being a moderator does not mean I cannot respond to questions as if I were a normal user - I also have a responsibility to ensure that the advice given is correct, and you or any other forum member, can expect to be questioned if you post content that I consider misleading or just plain incorrect.

To bluntly state that water should never be used to top up a cooling system is misleading, water can be used if nothing else is available.

I suggest you read the discussion again - I simply asked you to explain the reason for your recommendation to never top up with water - rather than agreeing that water could be used in an emergency, you chose to further mislead by suggesting that undiluted coolant was not available for purchase.
 
Being a moderator does not mean I cannot respond to questions as if I were a normal user - I also have a responsibility to ensure that the advice given is correct, and you or any other forum member, can expect to be questioned if you post content that I consider misleading or just plain incorrect.

To bluntly state that water should never be used to top up a cooling system is misleading, water can be used if nothing else is available.

I suggest you read the discussion again - I simply asked you to explain the reason for your recommendation to never top up with water - rather than agreeing that water could be used in an emergency, you chose to further mislead by suggesting that undiluted coolant was not available for purchase.
I knew you'd have to have the last word so I'll not respond further to this post!
 
Personally I use concentrate and dilute with de-mineralized water harvested via my home dehumidifier.. 50/50 and checked with a hydrometer..

As a safety note, if you have a leak, do not leave your droppings on the ground, it is sweet and toxic, deadly to animals, children, and stupid adults..
 
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Called into an other Suzuki dealer yesterday with the part number for the coolant. They had it in stock but they asked if I really wanted a five liter container or just a top up. I told them just a top up and they said that Suzuki never put enough in the reservoir just the bare minimum. Partsman disappears then comes back with a container of coolant around half full and some paper towels. Told me to top the Ignis and bring the container back. Took about a pint to bring it up to the full level engine hot. No charge great Suzuki dealer for next time!! For anyone wanting the correct coolant here it is
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The green Ecstar coolant is ethylene glycol based coolant - Suzuki do not publish the formulation or additional components. The blue super coolant is an OAT (organic acid technology) based ethylene glycol coolant and is extensively used in modern Suzuki cars
And dont mix different coolants or add plain water.
 
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If you can't add plain water, what do you dilute the concentrate with?
Im refiring to coolant which is diluted and ready for use. Suzuki blue coolant sold in the UK for the Ignis is ready diluted. If you buy antifreeze not coolant don't dilute with plain water you must use deionised water.
 
Any decent distilled water will do, deionised water can still contain organic particles. Deiinonising removes any ions (effectively minerals in the water) but does not remove organic particles unless its filtered. Distillation will remove both.
Any good quality home water filtration unit with a deionising filter will do good enough quality water for your battery and coolant.
 
Do not use distilled water in your automotive cooling system.
Why You Should Never Use Distilled Water in Your Cooling System | Rislone
You mix concentrate with distilled as per the manufacturers directions, i have yet to find one that tells you to use anything else. Distilled water is ph neutral, softened water is not. Pure Distilled water will attract ions from the metallic cooling system components, but when mixed with concentrate it is chemically balanced. That's the whole point of mixing it with Distilled water.

if you read the article its talking about the entire cooling system using distilled water Which is bad.
 
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