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I shouldve taken a picture I have to go under it again so I will to clarify.

But there is a pipe going up to the engine bay from the exhaust thats where the ring is well was since its worn out completely So i have to change it soon when i get some cash. So why isnt there a proper website to put my JDM VIN# that wiull give me correct information?
Of course, I cannot add to Fordem’s excellent info regarding JDM vehicles. But I am curious - as far as I know (and perhaps I am misunderstanding your info), all exhaust manifolds in the engine connect to one down pipe at the beginning of the exhaust system...ie, 4 pipes at the exhaust manifold where your upstream O2 sensor is, which connect to one pipe which goes to the catalytic converter.....If possible, it might be a good idea for you to upload photos....as well as a recording of this ‘metal to metal’ sound that you intermittently hear...????
 
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Of course, I cannot add to Fordem’s excellent info regarding JDM vehicles. But I am curious - as far as I know (and perhaps I am misunderstanding your info), all exhaust manifolds in the engine connect to one down pipe at the beginning of the exhaust system...ie, 4 pipes at the exhaust manifold where your upstream O2 sensor is, which connect to one pipe which goes to the catalytic converter.....If possible, it might be a good idea for you to upload photos....as well as a recording of this ‘metal to metal’ sound that you intermittently hear...????
-ill have to go under it to take the picture. For where the ring suppose to be installed

-the metal to metal noise I can't say I can record it because it doesnt happen when i want it to lol. I just came back home and I realise when i backed down from 3rd gear to 2nd gear i heard the metal rattle. noise does travel so its so not easy to pin point where this noise coming from until it is happening everytime
 
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Just my $0.02 - the epcdata.ru site may well be correct for your VIN - can YOU guarantee that your car has the original exhaust on it?

I moderate a number of vehicle forums and there's another forum on which I have been watching a member ask questions about his used JDM vehicle - what is unusual about this particular scenario is that the member is located within a mile of me and I know more about the vehicle he is working on than he does.

This is an individual that buys used vehicles, fixes them up and sells them - not unusual in the Caribbean - this particular vehicle he acquired from another guy who also does the same thing, but, in addition, the second guy imports used JDM vehicles parts which he resells, and the engine & transmission on the vehicle is not the original - something which I am aware of, and which the forum member is not - the original engine & transmission was pulled and sold to a customer and then another engine & transmission imported and fitted - the forum member is now chasing his tail trying to figure out why parts from the original engine are still fitted to the vehicle but not connected to the replacement engine, and how to connect them, when in reality, they don't belong because the replacement engine doesn't require them...

Back to your vehicle - can you be sure that what you are looking at is original or at least equivalent to the original? What I can tell you is that it would have been quite unusual for a JDM car of that vintage to have two O2 sensors.


-i also foudn it unsual for my model to have ABS and AIR BAGS lol because ive never seen that model with those.

-the mechanic said our jeeps have 2 sensors he has a v6 model to mine
 
-i also foudn it unsual for my model to have ABS and AIR BAGS lol because ive never seen that model with those.
Were you looking at used JDM vehicles or export models?

-the mechanic said our jeeps have 2 sensors he has a v6 model to mine
Let's not confuse things unnecessarily - you should not expect an inline four cylinder engine to have two O2 sensors because a V6 has two.

V engines with O2 sensors require one sensor per bank of cylinders, your inline four cylinder has only one "bank" so only one sensor, unless it's OBDII in which case, an inline four will have two sensors and a V6 will have four.
 
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Were you looking at used JDM vehicles or export models?



Let's not confuse things unnecessarily - you should not expect an inline four cylinder engine to have two O2 sensors because a V6 has two.

V engines with O2 sensors require one sensor per bank of cylinders, your inline four cylinder has only one "bank" so only one sensor, unless it's OBDII in which case, an inline four will have two sensors and a V6 will have four.
- well i'm not confusing things this mechanic i go to works for one of our suzuki specialist on island. i have 16valve MT he said this comes with 2 sensors.
 
At least for the US market, only the OBD2 engines will have the two O2 sensors. The OBD1 engines have only one O2 sensor, in the exhaust manifold. One way for you to determine what you actually have would be the procedure that you need to use to get codes. If you need to hook up to a scanner/code reader, and then get a 3 digit code reading, you are OBD2. If you can use a jumper wire on the diagnostic connector in the engine bay, and get 2 digit codes, you are OBD1.
 
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