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Not yes. Still ongoing. Mechanic have tried cleaninf the and connector but didn't work.

They did some tests and found out that some vacuum pressure was dropping. They're looking at that now.
Your comment regarding "vacuum pressure was dropping" suggests a defect in the vehicle intake trunking down stream of the AFS [air flow sensor]. Have your repairers ruled this out? Cleaning the AFS connector is the easy part of this repair.
Have your repairers been able to verify the correct voltages at the connection. There should be a 12v supply for the hot film device inside the AFS, 2 earth connectors, a 5v supply from the vehicle ECU [engine control module] and a variable signal voltage from the AFS depending air flow through the vehicle intake. It is possible that the ESP [electronic stability programme] is disabled due intake air upsets. Keep in touch.
 
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Hi all,

First of thank you all for your support. This is as mentioned driving me insane, and you guys help me keep my sanity.

We've tried the advises given in this thread but none have yet yielded any results. We're still getting error code P0101. However, we are getting closer now.

We can replicate the issue easily now. It appears when we're engine braking, like for example if you let go of the gas at a downhill.

The mechanic have looked and replaced MAP & MAF sensor, and have checked abs-sensors, checked cables for ground and other breaks.

With this new information, do you guys have any advice? 🙏😭



UPDATE! We have a breakthrough!
Just got a call from the mechanic. He couldn't let this go and disassembled the damper housing and rotated around the stuff inside. After he put it together again he couldn't get the error-code to appear again.
He called Suzuki Swedish support, and they told him that they've heard about this issue ONCE before. if that is true or not, i leave up to you. But it's starting to look promising! 🤞🤞🤞🤞 Crossing my fingers!!
 
Hi all,

First of thank you all for your support. This is as mentioned driving me insane, and you guys help me keep my sanity.

We've tried the advises given in this thread but none have yet yielded any results. We're still getting error code P0101. However, we are getting closer now.

We can replicate the issue easily now. It appears when we're engine braking, like for example if you let go of the gas at a downhill.

The mechanic have looked and replaced MAP & MAF sensor, and have checked abs-sensors, checked cables for ground and other breaks.

With this new information, do you guys have any advice? 🙏😭



UPDATE! We have a breakthrough!
Just got a call from the mechanic. He couldn't let this go and disassembled the damper housing and rotated around the stuff inside. After he put it together again he couldn't get the error-code to appear again.
He called Suzuki Swedish support, and they told him that they've heard about this issue ONCE before. if that is true or not, i leave up to you. But it's starting to look promising! 🤞🤞🤞🤞 Crossing my fingers!!
Hi @smashytech, do you have any updates? I've the same issue with a Suzuki Swift 2014 automatic, and I'm also losing my mind. I've already sent it to 3 mechanics, including the Suzuki dealership, and they have not been able to find the issue.

Sometimes, the ESP light turns on a few minutes after starting the engine, but on some days, it takes several minutes of driving for the light to turn on. After the light is on, the car runs normally, but the ECU won't use the high gears, increasing the RPM at 70-100km/h.

The mechanics so far:
  • Say that there is no error code
  • Have replaced the ESP OFF button
  • Replaced the battery
  • Replaced the sparkplugs

I've cleaned the wheel sensors. No success.

If the battery is disconnected, the light disappears for a while but comes back after driving a bit. This behavior makes the problem more frustrating as the mechanics don't take the time to test the car and claim that issue has been solved after replacing whatever requires disconnecting the battery.
 
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Hi @smashytech, do you have any updates? I've the same issue with a Suzuki Swift 2014 automatic, and I'm also losing my mind. I've already sent it to 3 mechanics, including the Suzuki dealership, and they have not been able to find the issue.

Sometimes, the ESP light turns on a few minutes after starting the engine, but on some days, it takes several minutes of driving for the light to turn on. After the light is on, the car runs normally, but the ECU won't use the high gears, increasing the RPM at 70-100km/h.

The mechanics so far:
  • Say that there is no error code
  • Have replaced the ESP OFF button
  • Replaced the battery
  • Replaced the sparkplugs

I've cleaned the wheel sensors. No success.

If the battery is disconnected, the light disappears for a while but comes back after driving a bit. This behavior makes the problem more frustrating as the mechanics don't take the time to test the car and claim that issue has been solved after replacing whatever requires disconnecting the battery.
Hi @pmpoblete ,

Yes we got it resolved. My error seems that it is slightly different from what you describe. We did change the air intake sensor, MAF & MAP sensor.

What ended up "fixing" the issue was when the mechanic looked into the intake damper housing, and the valve there. He lubricated it and rotated it a couple of times. This ended up actually at least temporary fixed the issue. Obviously the fix is to change the whole damper housing, but that is kinda expensive to do in my country so I'm going with this"fix" for the time beeing.
 
It does NOT have any direct data transfer or posting with theStability Unit. What do you mean when you say lubrication of the housing and the valve?The problem remains, nothing has been solved. The only sure thing is the reappearance of the error..... because you simply have not combatted the cause.I am George, an engineer from Corinth, Greece.
 
Hi @pmpoblete ,

Yes we got it resolved. My error seems that it is slightly different from what you describe. We did change the air intake sensor, MAF & MAP sensor.

What ended up "fixing" the issue was when the mechanic looked into the intake damper housing, and the valve there. He lubricated it and rotated it a couple of times. This ended up actually at least temporary fixed the issue. Obviously the fix is to change the whole damper housing, but that is kinda expensive to do in my country so I'm going with this"fix" for the time beeing.
@smashytech, thank you so much for your reply. Do you happen to have a photo, or can you roughly describe where this valve is located? I want to give it a try, and any recommendations would be highly appreciated
 
Hi all,

First of thank you all for your support. This is as mentioned driving me insane, and you guys help me keep my sanity.

We've tried the advises given in this thread but none have yet yielded any results. We're still getting error code P0101. However, we are getting closer now.

We can replicate the issue easily now. It appears when we're engine braking, like for example if you let go of the gas at a downhill.

The mechanic have looked and replaced MAP & MAF sensor, and have checked abs-sensors, checked cables for ground and other breaks.

With this new information, do you guys have any advice? 🙏😭



UPDATE! We have a breakthrough!
Just got a call from the mechanic. He couldn't let this go and disassembled the damper housing and rotated around the stuff inside. After he put it together again he couldn't get the error-code to appear again.
He called Suzuki Swedish support, and they told him that they've heard about this issue ONCE before. if that is true or not, i leave up to you. But it's starting to look promising! 🤞🤞🤞🤞 Crossing my fingers!!
I'm sorry to tell you, but it's only a matter of time before the error with that specific indication appears again......I'm tired of writing and telling you what to do.....Do what I describe and you will be free once and for all.... I am George, an engineer from Corinth, Greece.
 
Hi all, I have good news. The issue was solved by doing something similar to @smashytech, and it only cost me around 20 AUD to solve.

I cleaned the valve inside the throttle body (see the photo attached), which was getting stuck due to carbon accumulation at the edges. To clean this valve, there is no need to remove the air filter; just the big hose that connects the air filter to the engine. I did the following:

1) Warm up the engine, then turn it off.
2) Remove the hose and apply the cleaner product (Throttle Body & Air Intake Cleaner) while manually rotating the valve several times
3) Clean the inside of the valve with a cloth.
4) Reinstall the hose.
5) Start the engine and run at high RPMs for a few minutes.

Before this fix, the car was running poorly at low RPMs, the ESP light was ON, and the idle RPMs were dropping. Now the car is running perfectly again!

I hope this helps!
 

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Hi all, I have good news. The issue was solved by doing something similar to @smashytech, and it only cost me around 20 AUD to solve.

I cleaned the valve inside the throttle body (see the photo attached), which was getting stuck due to carbon accumulation at the edges. To clean this valve, there is no need to remove the air filter; just the big hose that connects the air filter to the engine. I did the following:

1) Warm up the engine, then turn it off.
2) Remove the hose and apply the cleaner product (Throttle Body & Air Intake Cleaner) while manually rotating the valve several times
3) Clean the inside of the valve with a cloth.
4) Reinstall the hose.
5) Start the engine and run at high RPMs for a few minutes.

Before this fix, the car was running poorly at low RPMs, the ESP light was ON, and the idle RPMs were dropping. Now the car is running perfectly again!

I hope this helps!
Good morning, it did NOT solve anything at all. The problem will come back and it is a matter of time. In an electric throttle, we DO NOT intervene manually on the throttle. Unfortunately, with what you did, it has a ρουτίνα The input is now out of calibration. It's a matter of time before it shows up again. In previous posts I describe the process in detail, but you probably like to do your own thing.....
 
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