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4x4 light (search not helping)

7.4K views 52 replies 7 participants last post by  2013GV  
#1 ·
Hi all, I picked up an 2002 1600 a few weeks ago and I’ve been working through its issues.
the one that stumped me is the 4x4 light.
When I first got it, it was flicking on and off like most peoples issues.
I stripped and rebuilt the pump and that solved it, used it a few times in the field and it was fine.
The next job I had was a leaking drive shaft seal in the front diff so changed that and put the spacer in. I also changed diff oil.
I tried the truck yesterday in the field and the light wasn’t coming on so had a look when I got home.
With it stationary and in 4h or 4l the light comes on and stays on.
i have wiggled all the pipes and plugs at the diff end and the pump end and the pump holds pressure without needing to keep pumping.
the trouble I have is as soon as the wheels turn the light goes off and flicks on every few seconds and when I say turn, it’s me rolling at 1mph down my drive.

I feel confident the pump is ok and the external pipe work is ok so it’s looking like it’s inside the diff.
before I go tearing it apart have anyone got any suggestions as to the cause of this? Or other tests I could do? I would like to take it apart and fix it in one go so I will get the parts before hand.
I’ve only seen pictures what they look like inside so I’m having a hard time understanding how it works in there.

sorry for the long post, just trying to get as much info in one go.
 
#41 ·
Id use the jumper cable to provide a "insignificant " resistance. Path due to its large cross section area.. Using a meter lead adds on average 0.2 ohms. Don't believe me, go measure your meter leads one day. That's why there's a zero adjust or "rel" function on multimeter, to remove this lead resistance from the measurement
 
#42 ·
What do you all think to this, is this my problem?
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The answer is yes, this was my problem!!!

I will go and have a blast about in the fields tomorrow to check but the 4x4 light now stays on with everything switched on.
Just out of curiosity, i did the pin 16 test again
Berore After
Engine off
Heat lights off 11.7v 12.4v
Heat lights on 10.4v 12.2v

Engine running
Head lights off 13.9v 14.4v
Head lights on 12.8v 14.3v

Thank you all for your help, couldn't have done it without your input.

I'm a mechanical engineer by trade, now a welder and fabricator. I know my way arounds spanners but electrical is witchcraft to me, and this just proves it! who would of guessed a stupid bit of rust would stop a 4x4 system to stop working!
 
#46 ·
Then you probably have other ground wires either in the same condition or possibly removed / disconnected. Engine to frame or firewall, at a minimum. That one wire you found is way too light in gauge to support all of your grounding needs.

Revisit the main leads to the from the battery and out, wire condition and connections for corrosion too.
 
#47 ·
Then you probably have other ground wires either in the same condition, diconnected or missing. Engine to frame or firewall, at a minimum. That one wire you found is way too light in gauge to support all of your grounding needs.

Revisit the main leads to the from the battery and out, wire condition and connections for corrosion too.
This has now been put on my list of things to do.
There was a bigger earth cable that went off behind the engine to the other side of the firewall so this wasn't the only one, i can get a new one made up at work if you think its needs to be bigger? what gauge do you think?
 
#49 ·
i misunderstood your last comment, i thought you were saying that one was too light but now i re-read it i think you meant if the others were compromised then that one would be doing all the work and therefore not b big enough
 
#52 ·
How did you isolate the problem? Did you use the jumper technique or was it a visual inspection of the bolts? [/QUOTE said:
I put my meter probe on the bolt head this morning when I noticed the 2v’s and I had to scratch the bolt head then with my probe to get a reading then after people on here saying that’s a problem I had been thinking about it all day while I was out so it was the first thing I checked when I got home.
 
#53 ·
Well done, good find, thats one if the main "body" grounds. As everyone else has said, if that ones bad, the rest probably are. I can see a lot of cleaning and checking in your future, but success at the end of it