If I’m reading this right, the poster says he does not have ABS, so the first empty slot is ok. The last slot on the left is also meant to be empty but the one to the left of it (now empty) is indicated at ‘lamp’. Using his diagram, that lamp fuse runs radio data link connector, clock, tail lights, etc., etc., but at the bottom of the list it says ‘fuel injection main relay’….????

 

Also I put another 30A in the PTC slot so it isn't empty... it blew and still in there

 

So the PTC fuse blows as soon as you a fuse in there, even if the key is not on, correct?
And now that you put that ramp fuse back in the ‘lamp’ slot, do your lights, etc., now work?

 

Yes.. headlights, parking lights, brake lights, horn all work again thankfully..

Still no blinkers or hazards... thinking it's the lever coming off steering wheel.
Haven't found it eBay or on car-part.com, what would it be listed as- the official part type name, does anyone know?

 

The turn signals & the hazards are on page 10 of the diagrams, they are fed from different fuses (#16 & #19), the only thing common to both is the turn signal "relay", the hazard light switch and the lamps/wiring. Start by checking the fuses in the interior fuse panel, make sure both are good, if they are bad, check the bulbs as the next step before replacing them.

Ignore the PTC fuse for now, it's not a critical item.

 

Thanks mate. Checked fuses and will do again, bulbs are good afaik and will try to find a way to check ... the blinker indicators do not show up on the dash and no blinker lights come on with the blinker lever in the on position for each direction

 

It's called the combination switch, and that would/should not prevent the hazards from working.

 

Which one is the combination switch..?

 

#4 is the combination switch - wipers, turn signals, light switch, and I'm not certain if the 95 includes the hazard light switch as a part of that.

 

Ok great thank you very much for this
The wipers work thankfully
Am going to try two things: the basic fix of pushing relay fuse under dash in its not sitting flat and seeing if blinker lever can be fixed

 

Rather than immediately deciding that it’s the ‘lever’ on the steering column that’s the issue, I would be testing the turn signal relay, and the wiring to it, which runs the blinkers/hazards.

 

You mean th

You mean the flasher relay behind the fuse box?

 

Hop le everyone's doing ok
Been to three mechanics and it may take hours to figure out which is too costly so going to keep tracking the source of the fail

PTC 30A fuse blows on startup still

Last mechanic said a fault in one turn signal light could cause them all to fail; he doesn't think it's the blinker control arm off the steering wheel as the part that pup chewed is end of the arm where the lights are modulated - the end piece moves forward and back separate from the rest of the arm . . Also he pushed the flasher relay all the way in, still no blinkers / hazards

 

Look at page 10 of your wiring diagram. For example, there is a yellow/blue wire that is part of the turn signal and the hazard light circuit. You advised that when you turn on the hazards, you get a loud noise, and also that your blinkers do not work, correct? They are all fed by the yellow/blue wire (as well as the relay near your fuse panel. I’d check the wiring for that circuit.
However, you will also notice, with regard to your mechanic advising that if one turn signal light fails, it could cause them all to fail, that each of the turn signals is fed by a different wire….green/red and green/yellow. In order for all the turn signals to fail because of one light, it would have to be fed by a wire that is common to both circuits.

 

Look at page 10 of your wiring diagram. For example, there is a yellow/blue wire that is part of the turn signal and the hazard light circuit. You advised that when you turn on the hazards, you get a loud noise, and also that your blinkers do not work, correct? They are all fed by the yellow/blue wire (as well as the relay near your fuse panel. I’d check the wiring for that circuit.
However, you will also notice, with regard to your mechanic advising that if one turn signal light fails, it could cause them all to fail, that each of the turn signals is fed by a different wire….green/red and green/yellow. In order for all the turn signals to fail because of one light, it would have to be fed by a wire that is common to both circuits.

👍👍👍 Going to go at it with this info and checking for EFE fuse tomorrow, will update
Thank you mate ***

 

Your EFE circuit is listed on page 8 of the diagrams. It shows the white wire coming from the 30amp fuse, controlling the switch in the EFE relay. The yellow/black wire runs directly to the EFE heater with apparently no splices or connectors. I cannot tell from the diagram where the white/blue or yellow/red wires feed to. But there is something in that circuit (whether the wiring or the relay or the heater itself) that’s causing that 30 amp fuse to blow.

 

The yellow/red goes to the A11 connector in your ECU. The white/blue goes to the injector resistor. If you go to page 7, and follow #4 and 5, you can see the circuit.

 

Found this thread for a 1995 geo metro re PTC fuse

https://community.cartalk.com/t/ptc-fuse/3748

 

LOL….we are learning how to research (you and I). Just for the heck of it, try putting your VIN into the box here on the Suzuki catalog. It will bring up diagrams specific for your car:

Suzuki

I went over to Rockauto to see if I could locate the EFE part, to see what it looks like, but they don’t list it. It would be nice to locate it in a parts diagram.

And yes, the turn signal relay is the flasher relay.

 

#11 - sits between the throttle body (#9) and the manifold (#1)

 

Thank you

 

Thanks, Fordem. I went over to Rockauto to see if I could find a photo of it, but all they have is an ‘engine block heater’ which isn’t the part (it plugs into 120v). Is there a photo of this thing, or it’s connector? The advice over on that Geo Metro forum of unplugging the heater and then seeing if that 30amp fuse blows might be a good suggestion.

 

Maybe something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_fuel_evaporator. ????

Or this: https://www.amazon.com/Early-Evaporation-Heater-Compatible-Buick/dp/B09MDTWQ1S

 

This might give an idea. I imagine the idea will be to find the connector to it and disconnect it, and then see if the 30mm- fuse continues to blow. It would be #1 in the photo. Just like #11 in the diagram that Fordem posted.

 

I’d suggest that, when you find the connector to the EFE, you disconnect it and see if the 30 amp fuse still blows. Would be curious as to the response.

 

Still looking for it and will post if / when it's found

 

Thank you all
Looking for the EFE... delayed start today due to work
Will update

 

Hi All, Am stuck due to not having tools.. talked with another mechanic who didn't hesitate and said its the multifunction switch which is the same as the combination switch I think which is where we all were going in addition to the EFE a
Can't find the switch online for sale... is this the same as a turn signal switch... can't find that either, found a thread about it Geo Metro Forum-95 Turn Signal Combination Switch - please help!

 

Look at Fordem’s post #59, and look for part #11 in that post. You will not see the actual EFE heater as it’s sandwiched in between other components, but you should be able to see the connector that’s plugged into it.
In Fordem’s post #45, the combination switch is #4. It controls your windshield wipers, headlights, blinkers, etc., etc. It does not control your hazard lights. When you put the 40 amp fuse back in the proper place, did the headlights and blinkers, etc., start to work? That 40 amp fuse controls all of them. ???

 

No... when I put the 40 amp fuse back where it is supposed to go everything that worked before I took it out and put it in the wrong place started to work again... the blinkers and hazards weren't working before I pulled out the 40 amp fuse and still don't work after I put it back in the right place...

 

Take a look again at page 16 of the scribd link you posted. That 40 amp fuse controls a lot of things that you advised weren’t working…???? Page 10 shows the circuit for your hazard lights.

 

Do you know if a 40 amp fuse could be weakened and only be able to power some things and not all?

 

Just found this

Geo Metro Forum-Combination switch Wiring diagram

I have a 95 1.3 Lt. 5 speed Suzuki Swift. I am looking for a wiring diagram or schematic for the combination switch. I am having headlight issues (no

geometroforum.com

This car's high beams only worked if I held the blinker arm towards me. This stopped working at some point,not recently . In the high beam position they didn't work. Daytime running lights work thankfully.

 

Maybe list again the things that currently do not work on your car. With regard to the hazards/blinkers, they work off of two separate wiring circuits, and all they have in common is the turn signal relay. The hazards do not go through the combination switch.
The combination switch deals with many components, some of which you are not complaining about….windshield wipers, for example. ???
Do you know how to test wiring? For example, turning a component on that is not working, and backprobing the wire at that component to see if you are getting battery voltage?

 

Thank you

Components not working or failing:
Blinkers - all four external, arrows on dash.
Hazards - all four
High beams - will check bulbs
PTC 30A fuse in small relay box under hood

Components that are working:
Windshield wipers
Heater fan on any setting except high
Rear window defrost - this never worked
Emergency brake light staus lit on dash
Shift arrow stays lit on dash

 

A couple of points...

The combination switch has multiple sections which, despite being sold as a single unit, all function independently of one another - for example - the light switch, which is physically mounted on the end of the turn signal stalk, shares no wiring with the turn signals. The high/low beam part of the switch does not use the same contacts as the high beam flasher, and is separate from the "OFF/PARK/HEAD" part of the light switch - the washer/wiper switch is another stalk on the opposite side of the unit and as before shares no wiring. Depending on the vehicle and it's options there can be between six to as many as ten different switches in the assembly.

I could be wrong on this, but, if I remember correctly, on a 95 Swift, the hazard light switch, which does share wiring with the turn signal switch is physically located on the top center of the assembly. I'm 100% certain that's where it is on the 94, but as I said earlier there are differences.

Now, even though Suzuki does not supply the individual switches, it is possible to take these units apart and in some cases repair them - it depends on what's wrong with them, all that's needed is someone who has experience taking things apart and reassembling them, someone who can figure out for themselves how things work, rather than expecting to learn it by watching a YouTube video.

 

Thank you
Have thought this too, if they can be re-manned
Yes the button for the haards is between the steering wheel and dash