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Ignis auto Transmission

6.8K views 8 replies 3 participants last post by  Poor man Paul  
#1 ·
Hello all, I am a new member to this forum but have been a Suzuki motorcycle devotee for many years.
I bought my first Suzuki car early this year.
It is a 2004 Ignis four door hatchback with the 1300cc egine with front wheel drive apparently from Japan (I think).
It is in Barbados and it has some transmission issues.
It tends to start off and stay in 2nd gear without upchanging, sometimes has no drive and often at stops, revs without any drive and then hits into gear harshly depending on the revs. Reverse can take a few seconds before it moves. The ATF fluid is high, if not slightly higher than it needs to be. It does not leak and there is no smell of overheated transmission fluid or internals. There is no debris or granules on the dipstick nor ATF discolouration.
My questions::
Is there a source for a transmission rebuild kit that I might contact for purchase?
Is there a source for a rebuilt auto transmission that i could ship to Barbados?
Is there another Suzuki (or other) car whose transmission is the same and will mate up easily with the Ignis' block?
Is there another Suzuki car 's engine/ transmission combo that can be easily substituted for the original engine transmission setup?
Is changing to a manual transmission an option?
if yes, which one?
The car is wonderful and drives beautifully when it works, I can drive it and tolerate the extended 2nd gear lock up until i reach the highway when an ignition switch off and switch back on allows the transmission to go to high and then overdrive.
The wife wont cope with that along with its other quirks.
Any help and/or advice would be severely appreciated.

sincerely,
Paul.
 
#2 ·
There is no other option, except the Jimny, which also has the M13A engine, but transmission does not suit the sedan you have. No other model Suzuki transmission will fit, except FWD M13A and that is Ignis only. I have taken apart auto and manual versions and can tell you the swap from auto to manual is only really achievable if you have all the flywheel, bolts, radiator and fan, clutch, pedal, gearbox, engine mounts (are different), RHS side CV d/shaft (is different, not 2 piece), wiring loom, gear selector cables, gear shit assembly, plastics in console, possibly interlock wiring and switch to new pedal. So basically you will need a donor car to do the swap.

To me it sounds like a solenoid issue in the trans, or auto control issue. There is a "piggy-back" auto trans control box that is fixed to the engine ECU under glove box. Try re-seating the connector plug/s to that. Also there is a possibility of leaky capacitor/s in the control box, easy to see if they are leaking once you carefully open it.

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#3 ·
Thank you very much for your input, 2000 Ignis. I noticed that after a few months of standing idle, that the transmission worked wonderfully on my first trip. The performance, however, started to deteriorate soon after the first drive. I have substituted another ecu with approximately the same results.
From what you are saying, it seems as if there is no replacement fix other than another transmission of the same ilk.
What about transmission rebuild kits? Or even a rebuilt transmission. If I could find a definite compatible unit, even in Australia, I would see if it is financially feasible to import one. It seems as though the Aussies dont ship those things past New Zealand...at least not that I could find. If you, or anyone, knows of an international shipper of these automatic transmissions, or kits, please advise me.
I really dont want to junk the car as it is so sweet to drive but a correctly operating transmission is a neccesity.
 
#4 ·
surely you must have a transmission shop locally that can rebuild it? you cab buy rebuild kits, but you do need special tools to disassemble and reassemble some of the pistom assemblies and clutch packs.

I'm probably stating the obvious, but when did itt have its last service and oil level check in the auto?
 
#5 ·
Yes, there are quite a few qualified personnel but the problem is obtaining the necessary kit. They are like hen's teeth.
The local Suzuki dealer is also a thorn because if you didnt buy and or service the car with them they refuse to fix it; all sprouting from the easy purchasing and importing of cars, by locals, from Japanese dealers and other (cheaper) markets.
So the dealer retaliates by denying parts and service to non original customers except at very inflated prices.
So that is where I stand.
 
#6 · (Edited)
In the low cost market in Australia, new small el cheap-o cars back in the day were about $1,000 AUD more expensive for the Auto option - they are rare here. Reason is, if you wanted a new car and you are a peasant, you are not paying $1,000 extra! As for a rebuild kit, is there an independent auto trans specialist in your area, let them order the parts. We don't discriminate in Australia - cars are cars! You are displaying a Canadian flag - this forum is run by a large Canadian Corporation (VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada), perhaps it is their duty to help you out.
 
#7 ·
Yes, I did that too. I ordered a kit through a huge transmission warehouse here in BC, but as the car is not imported to North America, the clerk could not be certain it was going to be the correct one and, alas what I got was not the correct one. So I cant get the correct kit (if one exists) until I get the serial / product numbers and that is the challenge. According to Wikipedia, the Ignis' transmission is used in different cars, like the VW, Mitsubishi etc but apparently there are differences amongst them too.
A good start would be a source of the kit, a kit serial number or Kit ID or an Inernational shipping source of a rebuilt Ignis FWD transmission.
With any info on those points, I may be able to get by.