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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
A few weeks ago upon starting my 2009 GV I started receiving the following warning message:
Service ESP System (see photo attached)
I took the vehicle to the dealership and they returned it to me stating that they connected their scan tool and came up with nothing, however, I am still having the problem, and the frequency of the warning is increasing (i.e. it is happening almost every time I start the vehicle now as against every ten or so starts when it first started). Has anyone experienced this problem and if so how was it corrected?
Any and all comments/suggestions etc. will be greatly appreciated.
 

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#32 ·
UK Action at last !

I didn't give up with this, I have now been told by Suzuki GB this week:

"We can confirm that a bulletin has been sent to the Dealer Network notifying them that a modified ESP actuator is available for the Grand Vitara should customers complain that the ESP service light appears temporarily on the dashboard. The service light can appear in cold weather whereby the battery voltage is extremely low for a short period of time. Even after the modified actuator is fitted the service ESP message may still appear on the dashboard. This is due to climate factors beyond our control. This light appearing on the dash does not effect the function or performance of the ESP system and is of no detriment to the vehicle. It is only if the light appears constantly on the dash that would we suggest that your ESP unit requires further diagnosis. "

Off to the Dealer we go then....

Andy
 
#33 ·
Service esp error

I am having the same problem. I am a girl who knows NOTHING mechanical about cars.
I have been having this problem since about August last year 2011.
I was told by the Tynan dealership that there was no error code found. But I found out that once you turn your car off, it clears any error codes. So next time it happened I took it straight up to the dealership and they found a few error codes, esp being one of them. They found dirty/coroded battery terminals. they cleaned them and pushed me on my way. DID not fix the problem. I was basically told to deal with it and does not affect the car and its driveability.
I wasn't just going to DEAL/LIVE with it.
I contacted suzuki customer care and relayed the whole story and said I am not going to put up with that light coming on every couple of days for the rest of the time I have this car.
An error message MEANS that there is something wrong with the car. If I DEAL/LIVE with it, how will I know if there is a REAL ERROR or something wrong with my car.
NOW, after getting in contact with suzuki customer care down in melbourne (i think) they said that the reason the message comes on is that there is low voltage in the battery.
They agreed to replace the battery with a SUPER CHARGED BATTERY. That was back around december. I didn't have the error msg come on since then that was until I stalled it one morning last week. But that was the only time till last friday when I was actually driving the car and the SERVICE ESP error msg came on 3 times in 5 mins. (has NEVER come on while I've been driving it, or stayed on for longer than 2-4 secs)
It is in getting serviced today and they were going to charge me as it is only just out of warranty (5th March) but this problem has been on going when the car was in warranty.
They think this error is caused by my mechanic changing the front brake fluid. Hmmmm
Sorry this post is soooo long, just thought I would let you know about my experience.

Tim Tam
 
#34 ·
A few weeks ago upon starting my 2009 GV I started receiving the following warning message
Service ESP System (see photo attached)
I took the vehicle to the dealership and they returned it to me stating that they connected their scan tool and came up with nothing, however, I am still having the problem and the frequency of the warning is increasing (i.e. it is happening almost every time I start the vehicle now as against every ten or so starts when it first started). Has anyone experienced this problem and if so how was it corrected.
Any and all comments/suggestions etc. will be greatly appreciated.
I have a 2010 3 door Grand Vitara, owned from new, and only a year ago I started getting the ESP REQUIRES SERVICE on the dash and I spoke to the Japanese Technicians in Toowoomba and they said that they know of this occurring and said that it may be a low voltage battery fault and the car can be driven without concern. I changed the battery and the fault went for a little time but came back after a month or so. It seems that unless your battery is at full charge all the time, this fault alarm will re-occur.
I have my suzi on Solar trickle charge all the time when not in use, but it still happens now and then.
I am at the point of having the car put on the diagnostic computer at a cost of $95.00 to see if something can be detected. Some others have had this done and they have ended up paying up to $1000 to have a simple sensor replaced. I think it may be better to put up with the alarm, as long as it is safe to use the car.
 
#35 ·
Make sure any replacement battery is the right size, mine had been replaced by previous owner and alot of listings in auto parts stores for batteries actually have a slightly smaller sized battery listed.
Mine has been doing the code ever since I've had the car, when I had it serviced for the first time suzuki notified me of the smaller battery.
The warning comes on all the time at the moment because its quite cold here in the mornings at the moment.
 
#36 ·
I have had the same problem for over a year and contacted Suzuki and they say it is OK to drive with this fault which is quite common. I took mine for a diagnostic check and it came up with Fault code:C1061 and quoted me $3,500 to install a new ABS Pump, but they could not guarantee that this would clear the fault. I have contacted many Suzuki Agents and Newspaper Car Gurus, but it seems to be in the "too hard basket". I am left with a car with 50,000km on the clock and can't sell.
 
#38 ·
I also changed my battery and the fault disappeared for about 6 weeks then re-appeared after the battery dropped voltage again. I have now booked car in again for another diagnostic test which will cost me $145. Suzuki Australia contacted this Suzuki Dealer to contact me. Will keep you informed of the results on Tuesday
 
#40 ·
This ESP Warning happened to me too and it turned out to be a weak battery.

10.5v was observed measuring at the battery terminals after the car was left parked overnight in the morning, and dropped even more during cranking.

A new battery touch wood and it has not happened again.
 
#42 ·
My Wife who has been driving the car a lot recently has told me the warning has started to come up in the mornings again...and sometimes stay on for a while!

Looks like our battery might be going cactus again! Will need to get out the MM and check the voltage before and during cranking at first start in the morning.
 
#41 ·
Had same problem on my 2010 Grand Vitara and two Suzuki outlets said it was coming up with a Fault Code C1061 on the diagnostic machine and quoted around $4,000 to fix and could not guarantee that this would fix the fault. I hunted around Australia for a second hand ABS Pump and found one in Sydney for $400 which when fitted by my local mechanic fixed the fault. Suzuki know about the problem but they say as it doesn't harm the driving of the vehicle it has not considered it serious, so no Recall, although America did.
 
#44 ·
Thanks for the info Keltyscot.

I remember this fault happened to us firstly about two years ago, and the car had the original battery in it from new.

It was checked and found to be 10.5v without the car running, and upon cranking it dropped to under 10v and triggered the fault.

Since it was replaced back then we haven't had the fault return till now.

I hope its not the ABS pump!!
 
#47 ·
In my case I've got C1028 code when ESP lights was on. "Master Cylinder Pressure Sensor". Found company in Poland, they fixing it. Don't know about C1061 but I think is worth to ask. They sent me fixed hydraulic part of the ABS pump and was able to replace it in three hours. Sent them back my faulty one. Cost was 1000 PLZ (about 350USD)
https://zmserwis.eu/en
 
#48 ·
Hi Guys...an update.

Mine turned out to be the battery again. It was below voltage and causing the ESP warning on startup...the battery has now been in use over 3 years and has a failed cell.

I have replaced the battery with a new heavy duty calcium unit and the issue has cleared up.
 
#50 ·
I fixed the stering box of my grand vitara because it had an oil leak and after that I got the maintenance to esp system message.
The mechanic told me that ordering to align the direction could solved the problem and that was it, after the alienation the message no longer appeared.
He also told me that it may appear when the brakes or tires are changed or the tires are too worn.
 
#52 ·
Service ESP system Suzuki Grand Vitara 2012 reg.

A few weeks ago upon starting my 2009 GV I started receiving the following warning message
Service ESP System (see photo attached)
I took the vehicle to the dealership and they returned it to me stating that they connected their scan tool and came up with nothing, however, I am still having the problem and the frequency of the warning is increasing (i.e. it is happening almost every time I start the vehicle now as against every ten or so starts when it first started). Has anyone experienced this problem and if so how was it corrected.
Any and all comments/suggestions etc. will be greatly appreciated.
I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to say that due to this forum, I firstly checked my tyre pressure - one tyre was low. I still had the problem above, so I took the car to a garage and asked them to check the power output on my battery. Battery was fully charged but only giving out 25%. They installed a new battery. The "service ESP system" warning was no longer there but the traction symbol was lit instead. As instructed by the garage I drove the car slowly, hard lock to the right, then hard lock to the left, then down the road. Within 2 mins that warning light had gone out too. Problem solved!
 
#53 ·
This is very common as the battery ages, the volts drop lower during starting and reach a point where the esp system gives up.

If replacing a battery, key on, wait 45 seconds, then start car, this resets the "idle learn" function in the throttle body. Drive 200 metres straight a head to reset ESP light, DO NOT do a "lock to lock" movement of the steering wheel a this will just make the ESP reset process longer. Can take up to 5 mins to reset after doing a full lock movement as the ECU is looking for a steady straight line to reset the "centre" point of the steering angle sensor.

Takes about 10 to 15 seconds of straight line driving to reset if you just drive off after replacing the battery.
 
#54 ·
2009 Diesel JB

I had the old low voltage issue and bought a battery with higher amp rating than the manufacturer specifies - this is what you should look for when choosing a more rugged battery that can kick a cold, tight-fitting diesel engine into action in the morning.

Now, a few years later the ESP module has gone. Attempted to have it refurbished (a new one is $3,000) worked for a few weeks then back to square one. Bought a warrantied second hand one - but discovered they are all different - even for the same model car.

There was one manufactured in Mexico, and another in the Philipines and another in Malaysia, they had different pin arrangements. It seems you have to get someone who knows what they are doing to identify what's been put on your car then to approach the country of origin of that part for replacements OR phone around and ask them the country of origin of the spares they are selling, AND the part number and perhaps send them a photo of your particular unit - to be sure.

Suzuki's seem to be a mongrel mix of parts from different manufacturers. As you probably know the Diesel engine is a Renault, my fan for the air conditioning had Mitsubishi written on it but the used part I replaced it with was made by another manufacturer!
 
#56 ·
has anyone tried a new battery to see if the theory is correct?
its a documented note in the suzuki TSB's, and I have personally experienced it on my 2015 when the factory battery got a bit soggy this winter and car had sat for 4 days non running. First start, ESP warning. stopped it, key off, waited 20 seconds, re-started and esp light went out.
 
#57 ·
A few weeks ago upon starting my 2009 GV I started receiving the following warning message
Service ESP System (see photo attached)
I took the vehicle to the dealership and they returned it to me stating that they connected their scan tool and came up with nothing, however, I am still having the problem and the frequency of the warning is increasing (i.e. it is happening almost every time I start the vehicle now as against every ten or so starts when it first started). Has anyone experienced this problem and if so how was it corrected.
Any and all comments/suggestions etc. will be greatly appreciated.


I Had the same prolem especially when it was cold. After I got a new battery the warning went away.
 
#58 ·
I have checked the factory service manual, Low voltage supply ESP code is triggered at 10.8 V.
That voltage is easily seen at the battery terminals when a battery is getting older and its cold when the car is cranking. I have seen them go below 10 cranking, but thats really noticeable in the slow cranking.
 
#59 ·
I have once this message coming home at night (very cold). It was some time after crossing an off-road with snow. My conclusion was the sensor was frozen with the water and the low temperature. When them took temperature again (next morning) the message was removed.
 
#62 ·
What codes do you have?