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First i would like to ask what does a sami weigh? Second will a 4000 lb winch be enough for a sami? I found a viper max winch for around 150.00 and its rated at 4000 lbs. Would that be o.k?
 

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The question is not "how much does it weigh", it's more like "how strong must the winch be to pull the Sammy out of the mud when it is buried to the axle housings". Or the ever popular "how strong does it need to be to pull my friends vehicle out when he couldn't get through trying to follow the Sammy".

For the mud question, rule of thumb is 2.5 times the vehicle weight fully loaded. After adding a winch, bumpers and assorted other armor you can get an easy 3K lbs-times 2.5 will get you 7.5K. So start your search for an 8K winch. As far as the part about the friends vehicle, it's up to you how much higher you go for your friends...

Warn and Ramsey both make some great options, just get something with a good warranty. And of course, make sure the bumper you choose can handle it.
 

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my buddy has a 2000 pound winch for his sammie. it pulls us outta everything. and if you need to get more strength double back to the sammie and youll double the pulling capasity.
 

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well we havent been through anything to gnarly yet... but it all depends on what type of wheeling you are doing.. if its just back yard fun and some small mud pits then you dont need too much. but if your doing some extreme stuff then bulk up.
 

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well we havent been through anything to gnarly yet... but it all depends on what type of wheeling you are doing.. if its just back yard fun and some small mud pits then you dont need too much. but if your doing some extreme stuff then bulk up.
So true.
Here are a few shots of zooks on our local trails...






 

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you guy's are nutzzz lol.
we got nothing close to that.
probally the most we've done was do laps aroung my motocross track. althougth there is this one hill at like 70 degres and its like 100 ft high. but thats it for us.
 

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yah. we havent broke anything too major yet. but even if we did. it would be a cheep fix.. or no fix at all . our rides are pretty low budget.
 

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You know the old rule about closets?

Move to a house with bigger closets and in 6 months you will fill them. The same thing happens with 4x4s...
Try a trail that tests the rig a bit too much and you will find a way to make it easier. Lockers, lifts, bigger tires, bigger lifts, bigger tires... You see the trend. We all start somewhere. I relly appreciate the years I ran a small lift, a single locker up front and a new clutch every 3 months (gears came later). It taught me how to wheel. They used to call me Bonzai Bill.
 
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