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I have a 1998 Suzuki Vit JLX. I recently experienced a seize due to low oil level (I imagine, or rather hope, that this car is an import with a low oil level engine cut out safety feature). I towed the car to the nearest spares store and poured in the needed oil. We let the oil settle and tried to start it, no luck, just a bunch of clicking. We push started it, and it started and ran (No bearing knock or any uncomfortable noises or feels during the drive home). My battery was already not that great, but I don't know where to start in diagnosing the problem.

Also, this morning, I had to push start my car again, which was more difficult in the rain and cold, the car eventually started, but it sputtered for about 5 - 7 seconds before actually running at idle speed.

What is to be suggested, I do not know enough about cars to venture this on my own. I love my Vitara and I'm terrified of losing it to mechanical error.
 

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Welcome to the forum! Normally with a real seize, you will hear the difference in the engine (much louder pistons, etc.) as they operate for that short time without oil, but metal against metal. And usually the engine, when truly seized, won’t start again. I would first suggest trying to start it with a good battery, as even with a properly running car will be difficult to start with a weak battery, and see if that makes any difference. Modern gas/petrol has little lubrication, especially with the alcohol mix in it - I might also throw a bit of 2 stroke petrol/oil mix into the intake, just to lube things up a bit. But others (hopefully) will come on and give you better advice.
 

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Welcome to the forum! Normally with a real seize, you will hear the difference in the engine (much louder pistons, etc.) as they operate for that short time without oil, but metal against metal. And usually the engine, when truly seized, won’t start again. I would first suggest trying to start it with a good battery, as even with a properly running car will be difficult to start with a weak battery, and see if that makes any difference. Modern gas/petrol has little lubrication, especially with the alcohol mix in it - I might also throw a bit of 2 stroke petrol/oil mix into the intake, just to lube things up a bit. But others (hopefully) will come on and give you better advice.

Thank you! Actually been wanting to join a forum for my Vit for a while now, as I don't see many of them around here, and they're such amazing cars.~


To add to what you said about the seize, the car was running, but not driving at the time that the motor stopped, I was idling in traffic and the motor slowly started losing revs and died, no matter how much I gave the accelerator.

I really appreciate your advice and will wait around to hear what the others have to say
 

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Find some one who can evaluate the situation properly - what you are describing does not appear to have been a "seizure" of the engine, and no, this is not an import with a low oil cut out feature. Your current problem appears to be a "no-crank" situation and needs to be investigated as such, it may be as simple as a loose or corroded battery connection, or a possibly defective starter.
 

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Ah, now that you give more info, I do agree with Fordem above. What you have appears really not to be a seize problem, but just a loss of spark or fuel. If your engine actually seized, it would have been VERY noisy for at least a few seconds before it died, and you would not have been able to start it again. I don’t know if you have friends that are handy with mechanics, but if so, here is something that you can try - try spraying some starter fluid into the intake (or the brake booster hose, which is easy to get to), and see if the engine will start that way. If it will, it shows that you have spark, but have a problem on the fuel side.

However, you’re advising that you can get the engine to start with push starting - and that after a few seconds it runs normally (??). Perhaps the first thing to do, then, is to get a properly charged battery, and see if the engine will start that way. Your car has a computer, and that computer works off of the electrical system and battery. If the battery is no good, and is not providing enough voltage (which, for the computer, I believe is about 10 volts) the car will have difficulty running.
 

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What you describe is a classic case of electrical starvation... Get the battery and alternator checked...
 

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What you describe is a classic case of electrical starvation... Get the battery and alternator checked...

Thanks for the reply Aquanaut20,

I went to have the battery replaced yesterday, however still no start. I am certain that the starter burnt out, as I've now been advised by the battery specialists (after describing the cars normal start procedure) that my starter was already on it's way out.

You guys won't perhaps know what type of starter to get?
 

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Ah, now that you give more info, I do agree with Fordem above. What you have appears really not to be a seize problem, but just a loss of spark or fuel. If your engine actually seized, it would have been VERY noisy for at least a few seconds before it died, and you would not have been able to start it again. I don’t know if you have friends that are handy with mechanics, but if so, here is something that you can try - try spraying some starter fluid into the intake (or the brake booster hose, which is easy to get to), and see if the engine will start that way. If it will, it shows that you have spark, but have a problem on the fuel side.

However, you’re advising that you can get the engine to start with push starting - and that after a few seconds it runs normally (??). Perhaps the first thing to do, then, is to get a properly charged battery, and see if the engine will start that way. Your car has a computer, and that computer works off of the electrical system and battery. If the battery is no good, and is not providing enough voltage (which, for the computer, I believe is about 10 volts) the car will have difficulty running.
Thank you so much for your answer.

It was definitely the battery that eventually caused the starter to burn out, when they tested the battery, it was pushing out just under 6V
 

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Any auto parts place will be able to help you - they use the info from your car (98 Vitara, etc) to look up the factory part number of the starter (which is 31100-60A13) and then they cross reference that to aftermarket suppliers.
 

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Make sure it is the starter at fault, not a wire issue
 
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