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That looks like the way my springs looked like bone stock.
From the look of ur tires, check that first.
Should all have tread all the way across the face and be the right pressure.
If the rubber bushes in the eyes of the springs are gone or going they will allow side to side movement that can relate to bad handling when loaded.
Check for any movement in any steering component.
 

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Thanks arlo. bad pics, the tires are not as bad as they look, about 2mm tread alround, I will check the bushes
 

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From the pics, the springs look completely flat to me. They don't have a lot of arch in them stock, but they do have some. Notice the rub spot above your bump stop? If your bump stop is hitting enough to create a clean spot on the contact pad, then you are carrying to much load or your springs are shot.
 

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The Suzuki leaf springs were designed to ride flat. If you find a zook with arched springs, then either they were replaced/upgraded by a previous owner - or somebody stole your motor...
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not that flat. The fronts tend to be pretty close to flat, but the rears should have a slight arch to them and the load spring on the bottom should be almost flat, maybe slightly inverted. Your rear pack is completely flat and the load springs arch is way more inverted than it should be.

another thing you can do to handle heavier loads, that doesn't involve re-arching the spring or using coil-over helper spings. You can add leafs in your leaf pack from a stock donnor leaf spring pack to give it more support. You can pull them off of junk yards or pick and pulls.
 

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Thanks again guys, I think the rub spot was from my weekend before when the car was once again out of control. I am a bit concerned that the ride will get even harder by adding more springs to the pack, I dont beleive I ever load more than 120 kgs ( 250lb) and maybe another 60 kgs (130 lb) which are my two fishing ski's on the roof .
perhaps its time to take "Noddy" back to the suspension guys to check out the rear springs
 

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that load shouldn't be a problem for the samurai. If it's on the stock springs, they're most likely worn out. The springs on my rig are only 10 years old and I have noticed that my lift has dropped from 5 inches to about 3 1/2 inches. Putting more springs in a progressive pattern will make the ride stiffer where you add the leaf. Depending on how far into the pack you place the extra leafs will determine where your extra support and stiffer ride will be. That's why the load helper spring is on the bottom of the pack. It's for when you've gone through the whole pack and is supposed to give you a little extra somthing to keep you from bottoming out the suspension.
 
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