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Well it's time for the paint job. I took some pics of the troubled areas. I will take more pictures of how it looks now after removing all the parts. Plans are for me to tow it to the shop for an estimate. A guy already quoted me $980 I feel thats high. Tomorrow Ill post the other pics. Thanks
 

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Well it's time for the paint job. I took some pics of the troubled areas. I will take more pictures of how it looks now after removing all the parts. Plans are for me to tow it to the shop for an estimate. A guy already quoted me $980 I feel thats high. Tomorrow Ill post the other pics. Thanks
Get it sand blasted. You have a lot of cancerous rust that you need to be able to completely see to know how to address.

$980 is not high. It's low as hell. Anytime you have that invasive of body work involved, it's going to be expensive. Also, sometimes doing repair work type of body work/paint can be more expensive than a stripped down full body spray.

See the way it's all pitted? That says that the rust has penetrated the surface. It's cancer. The only way you are going to truly get rid of it is to cut it out and replace the metal. There are chemicals out there that can oxidize the area, and supposedly stop the reaction. But I wouldn't trust it, and it doesn't fix the fact that the corroded metal is now brittle. Especially on a couple of those pictures like the hing area. It's toast. I give it a year or two if painted over, and it will be bubbling again.

I'm tellin ya...ask them how they will fix it. If they say grind it down and then use filler? Walk away. The only correct fix to that is new metal.

Good luck.
 

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I believe the guy is real low on the estimate. If the pics were all I had to go on, I would charge twice that.
I put over $1000.00 in just material to do mine, and that is a 30 mph paint job.
Mike
 

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Got what you guys are saying, The guy that quoted me $980 had never seen it I just sent him pics so he is really not very accurate. I need both of you to understand one major fact. I live in El Paso, TX where cost of living is AWESOME. It's not Cali or Colo Sooo NO ONE here would pay 1,500-2,000 for a paint job on a Sammy..are you serious? So being as it is the most I expect to pay is for the rust work because the car is basically ready for paint. I will post a few pics once sun is out and haul it to the other body shop for an estimate and YES I will ask about the rust procedure and what they plan on doing. I can hear them now..We will sand it down and bondo it..I will ask them to replace and weld new metal and then ask for an estimate for that work. I will keep you guys posted and again thank you for the input its much appreciated.
 

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Not to hijack, but Damn, I miss El Paso!! I spent three years there while in the Army. LOVED it there. Miss watching the storms from the top of the little mountain outside of town...forget what it's called. Partying in Juarez, boating up at Elephant Butte, repelling out at Waco Tanks! Can't forget that hot little Hispanic number that lived in Fabens! Whoa!
Don't remember the cost of living, cause as a Private in the Army, I didn't have a lot of money to spend! LOL! (1991)

Looking forward to hearing how this turns out. Really curious to what they end up charging for the right work.

From the pictures, not knowing what is under or behind that would need to be repaired/replaced, If a customer came to me for the same, I figured $1100 in just rust repair....just for idea.
 

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Franklin Mountains, No MAS Juarez thats out of limits for everyone. When I arrived in 2007 you were allowed to drink at the ripe age of 18 ON BASE..Not anymore, too make guys came back from iraq/Afghan and killed civilians in alcohol related accidents. Yea EP is what you make of it, Some hate it some like it...Fabens!! Damn that must of been a cozy POA for you to drive half an hour just to get there but I don't blame ya. Ft Bliss has exploded into a HUGE base HUGE you would get lost big time.

Here are the pics of the part removal, Did a quick wash down and I'm off to the Body Shop. Will update you guys as soon as I return.
 

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Cozy POA?...No.
25 year old perfect 10 WILD NYMPHO...yes.
The kind that even at 19 years old was a challenge to keep up with. ;)
The kind that in the end turns out to be PSYCHO!! lol!:eek:
Nachos at the Henny Penny in Fabens...Still makes my mouth water.

Anyway...lol.

Keep us posted.
 

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Okay, Sammy has been dropped off at the body shop. I was able to see their work and liked it. I asked him about the rust spots and he told me that they us KITTYHAIR?? Yea I know it's not spelled that way but that's how it sounded. He said it was a mixture of bondo and fiberglass. I'm honestly not too concerned with it because its in an area that is not visible and if I have issues in the future I can work on it. Said I can swing by and look at the progress without a problem. Also told me I can be there Friday and look at it because it should be ready for paint. Asked me to give him 2 weeks JIC to be sure he had enough time. In a nut shell the body repair,paint,graphics including the SUZUKI in the rear,the rims painted white..$900 CASH price.
 

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Yea, it's used for filling fiberglass, in situations when you have actual holes and such. Good stuff for the right scenario on fiberglass.

Sorry bud. I know that you don't want to put a lot of money into it...but they are just putting a band aid on it so to speak. Unfortunately your paint job and more is doomed. The cancer won't stop eating away the metal behind the scenes. In as little as a couple of months you could see blistering again. They can tell you don't worry all they want. It's a lie.

Good luck... :(
 

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Yea, it's used for filling fiberglass, in situations when you have actual holes and such. Good stuff for the right scenario on fiberglass.

Sorry bud. I know that you don't want to put a lot of money into it...but they are just putting a band aid on it so to speak. Unfortunately your paint job and more is doomed. The cancer won't stop eating away the metal behind the scenes. In as little as a couple of months you could see blistering again. They can tell you don't worry all they want. It's a lie.

Good luck... :(
I agree. Rust repair is done with a die grinder and a welder.
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From what i see a paste job will be okay as long as they strip down to bare metal before the paste work. If you are a purist then cut out, tack weld, solder the seams and then paste.;)

But in the relatively dry Texas a paste job will look good for a real long time...especially if he parks it in a garage.:p
 

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Progress. At this rate It should be done by tuesday. Guy tells me people been HAWKING it so I hope it doesnt disappear.
 

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Believe it or not, rust is STARTED by moisture...but once it sets in, it's oxidization that feeds it. Sure moisture will speed it up. But lack of won't stop it. So unless El Paso is Oxygen free, it won't stop.

I guess I don't look at it from the "purist" stand point. I look at it as having the job done right, and not having my money be a waste.

Look back at those rust spots. Those were BAD. If it was just a little surface rust that had JUST started to pit a little, then I would agree that you could grind it and smear it, and it would last a while. But as bad as it had already rotted, I would have to completely disagree in this case.

But since it's a done deal, let's pray I'm wrong and cross our fingers for the brother. :cool:
 
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