Well got it off. Had to remove the Radiator and fan, then the crank pulley and timing cover, Crank gear and key and Timing belt and tensioner (after making sure to keep everything Top dead center and in time) Then the oil pan, Then the dipstick, then the Alternator bracket, Removed the seal with a hook and removed the pump. Took the water pump off too cause I told myself if I go back in as far as the water pump again I'm replacing everything on the way. $300 or so in parts for full 100K mile service.