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Did someone used this kit for "Automatic Stop Start Engine System Off"

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Hello,

I would like to know if someone used this kit to disable the start stop system?
Is it working good?

For Suzuki Vitara LY 2015-2020 Automatic Stop Start Engine System Off Device Control Sensor Cable Plug Modification Accessories,

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...!sea!IL!1649476809&curPageLogUid=fitKYJ4gEPLS

Thanks
Me
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Isn't it disabled if the A/C is switched on?
S/S bugs me too I have just got into the habit of switching it off when I get in the car, soon becomes automatic seatbelt on S/S off.
Isn't it disabled if the A/C is switched on?
Not on our 2019 model.

That Aliexpress device is probably just a timer that detects ignition-on and simulates the press of the stop-start button.
There are a couple of discussions on the forum about disabling Start/stop and a similar device from Alibaba has been used, I don't know if it's the same one.
Interesting point as I find the stop/start works well and I never consider switching it off.
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Within the past few years I've driven a number of vehicles equipped with stop/start, some of which have been mildly irritating, whilst others have been "downright dangerous" - the Chrysler Pacifica, for example, takes several seconds to restart when you take your foot off of the brake pedal, if that happens when turning left through an intersection (LHD traffic) it can cause an accident, the Ford Escape "surges" when it restarts, the absolute best was a Volkswagen Atlas, almost seamless, it's like it reads your mind, you're looking at the traffic, you think you see a gap, and the engine is running.

For me the Vitara falls into the category of mildly irritating, I can live with it, but really, why should I have to - it's not going to save me an appreciable amount of fuel.
I can only assume Fordem refers to auto trans cars as he mentions restarting when taking foot off brake pedal.
My Vitara is manual so the engine will stop in neutral with foot off clutch pedal. The car restarts instantly when the clutch pedal is depressed.
If I'm in traffic or awaiting a gap to proceed then the car will be in gear with the clutch depressed so the engine will be running.
Unlike the Vitara hybrid 48v system my wife's previous Kona used the 12v starter motor for stop/start and that was more than "mildly irritating".
The Vitara auto S/S is pretty quick to restart but you can override it by using light pressure on the brake pedal rather than mashing it into the carpet. The thing that always amused me was that you could pull up to a stop in D, the engine would cut out but the minute you moved to P the engine would restart. Handy outside on the school run !
I can only assume Fordem refers to auto trans cars as he mentions restarting when taking foot off brake pedal.
With a manual, I can see why you would think it works well, my Vitara does have an automatic transmission, so has every other vehicle I've driven with stop/start - in heavy traffic, it can be hugely irritating, and as I mentioned, sometimes downright dangerous.
Replying to the OP’s original question, I bought a very similar item from AliExpress for my 2017 1.4 BoosterJet S-Cross automatic (which has the combined StopStart & ESP switch):
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4001...t_main.83.21ef5e5bQ1jOZD&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra
(I only paid 21.58€ in July 2020 rather than the 31.66€ showing now!)
It was a bit of a fiddle getting to the back of the S/S switch to connect it all up but it works well.
My only slight niggle is that I now have a constant orange warning light on the instrument panel to tell me the S/S is switched off! The only way to get rid of it is to switch the S/S back on again …
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the information, I will order it & try it & will update🙂
I can live with it, but really, why should I have to - it's not going to save me an appreciable amount of fuel.
It won't, but as you're probably aware that's not it's main purpose which is to reduce air pollution in areas of traffic congestion.
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Agree with MikeJT
It's also an offence in UK to leave the engine running when the vehicle is stationary. Potential £80 fine.
I never use the stop start, hot turbo and stopping the engine is just asking for trouble. Is there a thermal cut out to stop this happening after a motorway run at the top of an off ramp for example?
I never use the stop start, hot turbo and stopping the engine is just asking for trouble. Is there a thermal cut out to stop this happening after a motorway run at the top of an off ramp for example?
This is an interesting question, and one that I've never considered - I haven't driven a turbocharged vehicle with stop/start - I certainly have been stationary at a red light on an off ramp, so I can see the scenario happening. I suppose you could engineer the vehicle to use a water cooled turbocharger with electric pumps or maybe an electric oil pump to keep oil flowing through the turbo charger would be enough to prevent the oil from cooking.

Certainly food for thought.
I never use the stop start, hot turbo and stopping the engine is just asking for trouble. Is there a thermal cut out to stop this happening after a motorway run at the top of an off ramp for example?
Modern cars (at least many) have an electric pump for cooling the turbo when you shut down the car or for start/stop so there is not need to idle a minute before shut down as it used to be. (Or use a turbo-timer that were very popular here)

I remember in my 2009 Audi Q5 I could hear the pump working, the pitty is that it’s something that is not stated in specs or other as to easly know.
It's also an offence in UK to leave the engine running when the vehicle is stationary
I believe this is only the case if it's unattended (otherwise queues of stationary traffic would be generating lots of £80 fines :)).
Does sitting behind the wheel in a parking lot count as "attended"?
I think we all have a pretty clear idea of what "attended" and "unattended" mean.
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