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Cabin Heater not working on Drivers side?

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I seem to have a heater that is only working on the Passengers side, not the Drivers side of the cabin?
It doesn't matter where the air is directed, screen only, footwells only, dashboard vents only, or any combination; with the heater turned up the air on the left/passenger side is Hot but the air on the right/Drivers side remains Cold.
Does anyone know about the cabin heating arrangements please?
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So nobody knows anything about the U.K. Suzuki Vitara SZ4 2017 5 Door 1.6L Petrol Right Hand Drive Cabin Heating system then?
That could be any thing from flap orientation, cabin filter, clogged heater core, air trapped in core..
Thank you for the response, much appreciated. How familiar are you with the Heating system please?
flap orientation, cabin filter, clogged heater core, air trapped in core..
I feel that if it was any of "cabin filter, clogged heater core, air trapped in core" it would affect the entire cabin heating?

Re: Flap Orientation; are there different flaps for the Drivers and Passengers side heating? Do you have any details on what I should be looking for please?
Hei, vaimoni Suzuki Vitara 2016, vasen ohjaus, on sama vika eli lämmin tulee vasemmalle mutta oikealle kylmää ilmaa.
Onko tähän ongelmaan löytynyt ratkaisua?
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Hi, my wife Suzuki Vitara 2016, left steering, has the same fault i.e. warm comes to the left but to the right cold air.
Has a solution been found to this problem?
Not a good fault for Finland, minus 20 forecast here for tomorrow !
No solution so far, I'm sorry to say. :(
I have disconnected the heater pipes inside the engine bay, (quite easy once you've done it once or twice), and flushed and backflushed with clean water. Got a tiny amount of material out and no improvement in heat. I then bought some Wynns Radiator Flush and put that in. Half the bottle into just the heater matrix for about 4 hours, then put the rest into the cooling system and ran it for a few days before flushing with clean water and refilling with green antifreeze at about 40%. Still no improvement.
I've had a look inside the air duct by removing the cabin air filter (under the glove compartment) and used an endoscope (carefully past the fan) to check for blockages outside the heater matrix, but again, nothing found.
I've posted on a couple of Suzuki Forums and no-one seems to have any real idea, just guesses and general recommendations. I contacted the Main Dealer and they frightened the :poop: out of me. They actually admitted they'd never had the dashboard of the Vitara apart, and wanted the car for 2 days and £150 just to diagnose it. I priced a new Heater Matrix at about £200. I estimated the total cost by them to repair at over £500. I'm not that cold yet!
My next plan is to get some more active/corrosive flushing agent and keep it running through the heater matrix using a pump for a few hours. If that fails, I have the task of dismantling the dashboard to actually get the heater matrix out and clean/break/replace it.... :eek:
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Just a suggestion for your consideration - a clogged heater matrix will affect both left & right sides. The norm is to have a single heater matrix and to control air temperature by controlling air flow, it's a lot easier to control air flow than it is coolant, one reason being that leaks are a non issue, warm air leaking past a poorly sealed flap is not the kind of problem that a coolant leak is...

Your symptom of hot air on one side only is almost certain to be a selection door issue - no, I can't tell you what to look for, I have little experience with them, I live in a year round warm climate,
Just A thought,

if you block all the left side vents and full fan, does any warm air get forced out of the other side?

As it's climate control are there any thermostats involved in the system?
Your symptom of hot air on one side only is almost certain to be a selection door issue - no, I can't tell you what to look for, I have little experience with them, I live in a year round warm climate,
I also have no experience with the Vitara in this area (and you can't get Haynes or other manuals these days it seems) but the thought that occurs to me is this : Is your aircon dual-zone? If so there will be separate mixing flaps for controlling the temperature to each side. If single-zone I'd have thought there would only be one, although it's possible there's two arranged to work together.
Thank you!
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Hei, vaimoni Suzuki Vitara 2016, vasen ohjaus, on sama vika eli lämmin tulee vasemmalle mutta oikealle kylmää ilmaa.
Onko tähän ongelmaan löydetty ratkaisu?
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Hi, my wife Suzuki Vitara 2016, left steering, has the same fault i.e. warm comes to the left but to the right cold air.
Has a solution been found to this problem?
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Thanks for the responses!

fordem: "hot air on one side only is almost certain to be a selection door issue": that was one of my initial lines of thought/hope but I can't find any documentation detailing the heating/ducting system construction. If I look upwards from the floor into both sides vents, I can see a flap moving up and down in three positions as I select "screen", "dashboard" or "footwell", but it's the same one for both sides. It's the best I can do without documentation.

Hullu: "if you block all the left side vents and full fan, does any warm air get forced out of the other side?": I've already tried this; the air does warm slightly but the increase in cold air flow in total negates the improvement. We have been driving with the dashboard left hand side vents open to allow warm air, and the right hand side vents shut to keep the cold air out. In this situation the left most vent emits hot air whilst the second from left vent emits warm air, being diluted by the cold air I presume?
"As it's climate control are there any thermostats involved in the system?": Again my lack of documentation for the heating system construction is blocking me. I don't know is my only answer at present. I have tried turning the aircon on, my logic being that if the hot water heater matrix is blocked then surely there is another/separate one for the aircon and that will provide normal heat, but no, it makes no difference. This is what makes me wonder if fordem is right about selection flaps, but I can't for the life of me find any. Why would there be two on a single zone system?

MikeJT: "Is your aircon dual-zone? If so there will be separate mixing flaps": Unfortunately not. I have to say this was one of my initial hopes but I can't find any evidence of it or documentation to support it. It would be great to discover it's a two flap system, at least I'd have some direction to work in.

It's a shame my endoscope doesn't work in infrared; I can clearly see a heater matrix with it so I'd be able to tell if some of it was hot and some cooler. Unfortunately I can't quite see enough of the ducting around the heater to see if there are flaps unmoving/broken. I've only been able to see one heater matrix though. Anyone have any idea where the aircon would be, or are they cunningly combined in some way?
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For anyone that might be interested, I had this fixed by the local garage today. It turned out to be a partially blocked heater matrix inside the dashboard heating system.
This is a job I would NEVER do myself. The WHOLE dashboard and centre console has to come out, along with the steering wheel, and the aircon system emptied and disconnected.
They cut up the heater matrix and it was possible to see tiny deposits of what looked like pale blue coloured scale, similar to what you'll find in a kettle in hard water areas, blocking the tiny channels.
They said they'd never seen anything similar before. This is going to cost me a lot, (4 days labour plus the Heater Matrix £240 from the main dealer) and a hire car, but I can't see any way I could have done it myself, or cheaper.
Wow. That is going to cost you. Did you take out the Suzuki extended warranty ? I paid £209 last year for full cover and comprehensive AA recovery on a 2018 registered Vitara.
Suzuki extended warranty ???? I didn't know about it, although I haven't had it serviced by the main dealer for a few years now, since I Retired. Hence I doubt that Suzuki would allow it.
have you had coolant changes with correct coolant ?
you can get blockages if the different types of coolants get mixed. They can react together causing sludge I think.
Suzuki extended warranty ???? I didn't know about it, although I haven't had it serviced by the main dealer for a few years now, since I Retired. Hence I doubt that Suzuki would allow it.
That’s a shame. I was long retired when I bought mine and thought the serving costs were reasonable at around £20 per month over 5 years. The extended warranty with full at home cover and recovery also seemed reasonable to me especially given that my car was the 1.4 boosterjet and turbos generally cost a bucket load to fix. Hopefully your savings will cover the cost of repairs in this case.
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