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Hello guys, aint gonna lie joined up the forum (like many im guessing) through desperation.

My wifes 2012 1.4 GLS manual Swift had the ABS light come on. past couple of months. Didn't make any difference to the driving or braking and still doesn't. Although Im guessing the ABS under heavy breaking may be dud now. (worryingly).

Anyway Suzuki main dealer done the Diag and gave me a error code C1032 the rear right speed sensor failure. 4 weeks for the part to enter Australia? Anyway it came I paid for it and had my mechanic fit it. (main dealers extortionate)

My mech fitted but couldn't clear the code with his reader. Another Diag specialist failed at $50 too. :mad:

I was told its a software thing so that only Suzuki can clear the code?

Anyway bit the bullet with the main dealer who diagnosed the original fault and sold me the part. On the Diag again and same code and they claim they cant clear it either??

Just been told by them its most likely the ABS module at $6000 or $1750 rebuilt!!!

Im not that convinced. I don't trust them.

Why would a knackered module unit give a sensor error code?

Any ideas guys?? :confused:

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Welcome to the forum.
The light is on because the control module is not getting it's signal from the wheel speed sensor. As you have a new sensor I assume it can only be failed wiring between the module and the speed sensor or the internals of the module. I'd sure like to test the interlinking wiring for continuity before condeming the control module though. I'm sorry to say I don't have any wiring diagrams for the later models. Is it worth "googling" the part number on the control module to see if you could find a used unit. Hopefully somebody will have more useful info ;).
 

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Thanks Rusty. Its an easy $1750 right there. they also scare you with the $6000 figure and all of a sudden a pants down price of $1750 doesn't look too bad. marketing tactics meets psychological warfare.


Ill let the missis drive mine while I check this out.


Start the year and all that......
 

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You need to investigate further, the module rarely fails..

Had the first tech diagnosed properly you would not have needed to spend $$ on a sensor..
My mech fitted but couldn't clear the code with his reader. Another Diag specialist failed at $50 too.
same goes for the replacement mechanic..

Do these guys not know how to diagnose??

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I feel the same way, the sodden carte blache attitude with Diag hooks ups. they are a licence to print money.

Going to pop to a different Suzuki dealership and not mention the previous encounter.


A second opinion is a minimum I think considering.

Have read that the module/pump on the swift can be an issue. But it appears to be until 2011.

Its not easy.
 

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Hi Mark ,

Has the spare wheel been fitted to the vehicle at some stage ?
If this is the case The ESP function has to be deactivated in ECM and the vehicle driven for 10 minutes above 40km/h.

Where are you located? I may be able to help you out if you are brisbane area.

Also abs unit is not $6000 or even $1750 to repair. You can buy a new one for around $2000 or more like $500 to repair.
 

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Hi guys,


Have spoken with an ECU testing support company in the UK that deals with faulty ABS pumps. They said that the ABS pump on the Suzuki and many other that use this module has a built in brake pressure sensor. And that's the rub. earlier ones didn't.

However they have not had one go that gives the error code C1032 (ABS speed sensor) its usually C1028 which is the brake pressure sensor which would make sense.

Mmmm I have a diag OMBD II reader but it cannot read of cancel this.

Dr Suzuki...... Oddly enough the light came on the same day as the wife retrieved her car from JAX tyres to replace one of the tyres???? But that could be a red Herring? How would that make a difference??


I live in the Bayside of Brissy btw.

Thanks guys


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Okay........Dr Suzuki you have my curiosity piqued.

So,...checked the paperwork, and yes it was the tyre we had fixed.

The wife had a slow puncture on the rear right, and the garage where we bought the car at, South City Mazda placed the space saver on it claiming they didn't have right size tyre and would have to order one in.

Instead, as I know you cant drive around on a space saver for long, we took it into JAX tyres Capalaba the next day. The light came on soon after the tyre was replaced, and has been on since. The ESP light has been on since too.

So the code read right rear speed sensor and still does. I thought at the time that was very coinicidental and now you mention it may have something to do with it??

Very Odd indeed.
 

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There is a technical service bulletin about the azh414 where after replacement of a standard wheel with the spare that the abs light illuminates and cannot be cleared until a certain procedure is adhered to, i guess a flat will cause the same thing. Guess the dealers dont have a clue.
Would you like me to try and fix it , i have the suzuki sdt scanner so i should be able to . no charge at all if i cant fix it. buti have the know how and the equipment.
 

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Okay then an update for the forum.

Dr Suzuki (AKA Dave) nailed it with the whole spare wheel deal. You simply couldn't make it up.

We placed the skinny space saver wheel on the back right drivers side and drove the car a little way and hey presto the ABS light extinguished.

So even though I have Suzuki the full run down of how it came to be they never thought it may have been something else. Even when the speed sensor didn't work.

So in effect the sensor wasn't required and neither was the so called $6000 ABS module.

Lesson here is to seek out a second opinion. And hopefully someone like Dave is watchful on the forums and willing to help.

Thanks Dave.
 

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Can I assume this spare tyre is smaller diameter than the rest. Surely this is going to confuse the ABS :confused:. I don't know, but it's confusing me anyway :huh:.

Thank's for the update :thumbsup:
 

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Yes the factory tyre is 24 inch diameter and the space saver spare is 22.4 inch diameter.

I got another customer that posts on here and another forum that also just had an issue with suzuki trying to extract $1000 out of him for an immobilizer module when the error code clearly states that the immobilizer code is not registered in the ecm. The error occured after he started pulling relays and turning the ignition on , I explained to him that the ecu has lost the code , and also rhinoman agrees with me yet , suzuki still want to replace the immobilizer control module and "see if it fixes it".
 

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So I have an FZ with a spacesaver (full size doesn't fit, but I may belt the lumps out of the boot panel and try to get a full size in there, as I live in the country and would prefer full size)
So what happens when I put the spacesaver on, the ecu sees a difference in speed between the wheels and starts to put the ABS on, then after a bit the ABS goes right out because it's a continual fault?
Also I want to change my tyres to 185/65/15 (24.5"), up from 175, so this slightly largely diameter will also make matters worse if a spacesaver is used? Hopefully is will close the error on my speedo as well.
So after putting the standard wheel back on, what is the procedure to reset the ABS?
 

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Would not believe it ,but yes ,fitting the spare on is the only way i could get it to clear .
Cant re calibrate as fault code present for sensor , fault wont clear as you cant re calibrate with fault code present . Took a little while to get it to clear and stay out .
I found by refitting spare wheel ,short drive put out light ,stop vehicle clear code .
Turn off ignition ,refit normal wheel , ignition back on ,as no code exist ,now reset calibration on all sensors , then go into special functions and deactivate traction control ,light will confirm on dash system is deactivated ,dont switch of engine ,now drive for 10 mins . After switch off , code and light remained off ,For now :)
Simple job made unnecessarily complicated ,ggrrrrrr
 

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Dr Suzuki I have the same problem with a 2011 Suzuki Swift had a flat tyre right rear put on spacesaver spare fixed flat put original whee/tyre on then ABS ESP light stuck on, went to RACQ they put scan tool on it would not clear then tells me the speed sensor in that wheel needs replacement for $230. And then I spotted this post online. I rang Suzuki dealer they said no service bulletin or special procedure after replacing wheel it has nothing to do with ABS. Could you give me any other info as I'm stuck with this problem & not in Brisbane area. Any help appreciated. Cheers.
 

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brute force method, battery disconnect for 30 mins, reconnect and then you have to put up with default fuel trims, idle etc until it re-learns everything. I find it strange its done this. unless...you have managed to snag the wire to the sensor when refitting the repaired wheel, or the turkeys that did the repair have put too big a wheel weight on it and its smashed the sensor.
 

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I dont think that method works...

The procedure is this.
Refit the spare back to the faulty corner.
Drive until the light goes out.
Refit original wheel back on but before driving you have to deactivate esp with a scan tool. Drive for 10 mins above 40km/h (it really doesnt even take that long).
Once the car is stopped and restarted esp function is automatically enabled.
 

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I dont think that method works...
and why not? Have you actually tried this?
Disconnecting the battery will clear all settings from the ECM, ABS, BCM and TCM modules apart from the "hard coded" settings in the firmware, effectively setting everything back to factory defaults as it was when it rolled off the production line. The only things not reset are fob and transponder RFID chip codes as these are stored in NVRAM for exactly this situation.

The procedure is this.
Refit the spare back to the faulty corner.
Drive until the light goes out.
Refit original wheel back on but before driving you have to deactivate esp with a scan tool. Drive for 10 mins above 40km/h (it really doesnt even take that long).
Once the car is stopped and restarted esp function is automatically enabled.
your method assumes you have a scan tool capable of disabling the ESP function. All you are doing with this method is allowing the system to "re-learn" its default state, in effect the same as a battery removal reset.
 
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