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I posted this earlier but for some reason no text is displaying- so I'm reposting it again, sorry for the repeat!

I recently bought a 97'tracker 4wd MT from a guy with some tranny/gearbox noise. Just kind of a low rumble from below the shifter. The clutch was replaced within a year and it had went away for a week before he sold it to me and it picked back up again the same day.
I have had a manual truck for 2years before with no problems, so I do know how to keep a manual truck no problem, and I've had manual cars and motorcycles too...

So in a week I ended up hauling some stuff that was maybe 3-500lbs heavier than recommended weight, and to top it off I let my boyfriend drive it (it's a manual- he said he knew how to drive it..) overlapping each other. I don;t think the towing weight was really the problem but here goes;

1) So the night of the moving stuff my reverse went out, and when I left the car in park for a few hours it worked again and has been working just fine since.
---I'm assuming this was due to over heating- thoughts?

2) my bf was 'having fun' as he was 'shifting fast' (aka ramming the shifter into gear pretty dang hard and gassing it) and when it 'wouldn'tshift' he would just ram it harder more...
Needless to say it no longer goes into 4th gear, and pops out of 2nd unless you hold it in there for a few minutes, but if RPMs go low it pops out again. You can get into 4th if you skip 3rd, and sometimes it will simply refuse to go into 2nd unless you completely stop, shift, and then start from 2nd, or go back to low end rpms in 1st and retry 2nd gear 1-2 more times.
---I'm pretty sure this is broken/burned/massacred syncros- but could it be anything else too?

-the 2hi gave out while going up a small incline. Now it drives in 4wd L/Hi just fine, or with the hubs locked in 2hi and the 'original' rumbly noise it had is absurdly loud now.
is this a blown transfer case, blown tranny or should I just replace every thing?

I'm really curious about the rumbly noise it makes because I had to buy a new truck for work (also manual), I was retarded and let the bf drive it to the grocery store and back home ONCE and since then it has also started the same noise. It was faint and intermittant from that night but now it too is beginning to sound louder/more frequent.

I'm pretty sure the two noises in each vehicle are related, but I don't know if it's related to synchro jumping or not and how I would test for that?

any help or advice would be awesome!
(minus the sarcastic "don't let him drive anymore" .. he's been banned already)
 

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It could indeed be failing syncro, but do not discount the possibility of bent shift forks (forcing) and incorrect fluid..

..... Philip
 

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You may want to cross your fingers, and look to see if the lever bushings and spring was destroyed while your boyfriend was driving. If you remove the shift lever (by pushing down on it., turning counterclockwise and lifting up) there are two plastic bushings under there that can break, causing difficulties getting the shifter into gear. Also part of the shifter mechanism has a spring (which I understand cannot be bought separately, although there may have been a DIY fix for this somewhere on the forum) and if the spring breaks or gets mangled, the shifter will pop out of gear.
Diagram for shifter is here:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki...ker/49739-94-tracker-2wd-wont-stay-fifth.html

Regarding your transfer case, this car is part time 4wd, and should never be driven on dry surfaces with the transfer case in 4wd and the hubs locked. Your rumbly noise could be transfer case windup, which occurs when you do this (due to wheels locked to each other, but traveling different distances - particularly when turning) and not be able to slip.
 

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Regarding your transfer case, this car is part time 4wd, and should never be driven on dry surfaces with the transfer case in 4wd and the hubs locked. Your rumbly noise could be transfer case windup, which occurs when you do this (due to wheels locked to each other, but traveling different distances - particularly when turning) and not be able to slip.
The 'rumbling' noise was well prior to the 2hi going out-
When 2hi went out I had to coast over to the shoulder lane and lock the hubs in order to drive it the remaining 2 blocks home, so I have'nt driven it nearly close to long enough/hard enough in 2hi with the hubs locked to cause damage like that.
They still unlock just fine. but then it won't move... 4hi, 4low or hubs locked will make it move so I'm assuming that it's a front axle/driveshaft issue or the linkage somewhere between the two that's not working.

It's good on all it's fluids, Jiffy lube topped everything off the month or so before it happened so I know it's not due to no fluid in the T-case.

Maybe 'rumbling' isn't a good word for it. it's in the front end of the under carriage for sure. but sounds loudest from directly under the shift stick. It's a lot like the Transfer case noise this sidekick makes in 2-4th gears but a bit lower/throatier when at idle, and then louder when in gear.
But would Tcase problems also make it stop driving in 2Hi completely?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH6Q8SBzNDk
 

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Hmmm...I'm no tranny specialist, but I would think that if you can drive in 4wd, but not 2wd, it would be a problem with something in the rear - the rear prop shaft, linkage, etc. When you put the transfer case into 4wd, it engages the front wheels and sends power to them - I would imagine then that you are driving in 'front wheel drive' with your front tires pulling your car along. Have you gotten under the car to check the rear? As you are able to drive in 4wd, I would think that perhaps your tranny is not the issue, but the transfer case. Worse comes to worse, it is fairly easy to pick up a good one at a junkyard, as they are not used very often.....
 
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