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Old 09-05-2017, 07:33 PM  
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Question 2009 SX4 will not move

I just bought my SX4 5 speed manual last week. I bought it with shifting problems. It ended up being the shifting linkage that raises and lowers the shifting tower was frozen up. A little heat and I was able to remove the linkage. Cleaned out the hole and linkage, got new bushings and put back together. Everything moves fine and shifts freely in and out of all gears. Started the engine and car will not move in any gear including reverse. Hydraulic clutch feels like it is working ok and I can see movement in hydraulic hose when clutch is being pumped. Absolutely no grinding of gears or noise coming from the transmission. Car is able to be rolled as if in neutral.
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Does it make any noise - bell housing area?

I had a 62 Nova with the clutch going out.
It was stolen & cops found it abandoned after the clutch went out completely.
No contact between the flywheel and pressure plate = no go.

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With the engine running, it is quiet. Car was sitting for about 2 years. Previous owner had tried some repairs, but never noticed the linkage being frozen. He even had purchased a brand new shifter to put in, but never installed it. I think the linkage was frozen in either the middle or upper position. The old shifter was already out when I purchased the car. There may be a possibility that with the tower up, it may have had only been able to shift between 3 & 4 or 5 & reverse. Trying to move the car in high gear they may have burned the clutch totally up, but I have never seen a clutch so far warn, that there is no contact and or movement with the pressure plate. guess it is possible. Is there a view "port" to observe the clutch on Suzuki's, or do I have to remove the transmission to check the clutch theory out??
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I don't know anything about transmissions
I'm very interested
Please keep updating as you progress towards your fix
Thank you.
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..... Everything moves fine and shifts freely in and out of all gears....
Seems too freely for me...like it does not shift at all...If there is no rotation of the transmisison from the engine running (shifting with engine off)..there should be some rsistance..even some gears would not want to engage without the syncros acting. Not convinced yet that problem comes from the clutch...
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When I shift thru the gears, I can definitely feel a positive engagement of the transmission and when I get to reverse, I have to go back to 1st or another gear before it will then slide into reverse. I think that is causing the rotation of the transmission you are referring to. Today with car in 1st and engine off, I was able to roll the car as if it was in neutral. I moved the car to a clear space, it was in some deep grass as I have a farm, so I have not been able to see anything from underneath the car. Hopefully in the next day or two I will get it up on ramps to check the underside of the transmission to see if there are any dust cover / view ports ???? to see the clutch and flywheel. I would hate to pull the transmission if I do not have to. I have seen clutches freeze on after sitting for a couple years, but not get stuck open.
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Being in the grass and still on the ground makes it rough.

The main shaft on my brand new work truck snapped right in the middle
Ford F550.
It happened driving up a two lane mountain road, right after a hairpin curve.
Would only roll backwards.

You don't suppose they left the clutch out do ya?

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They never had the transmission out, but that is literally what it is acting like. Even a fully burned up clutch would still have some movement of the transmission with the engine running. The clutch still has metal at it's core. I would expect the pressure plate to still reach the core metal and turn the transmission. With engine running, I can shift without the clutch and there is absolutely no chatter, let alone grinding of gears.
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If you can (while the car is moving even a little) shift through the reverse gear without the clutch and there is no grinding noise
Then it has to mean there is no power being transmitted to the transmission
The gears in the tranny aren't turning.

So the fingers on the pressure plate doesn't meet the clutch plate?
Or maybe the hub on the pressure plate snapped off and freely spinning?
Or the throw out bearing is stuck??
But, in any case, it has to be in the clutch system of the manual transmission

Cause if the input shaft of the transmission is turning then there would be grinding in reverse since there is no syncro for reverse
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I kind of figure it has to be something to do with clutch, throw out bearing or or the pressure plate. I am hoping there is some type of view port to see the clutch.... I have not been under the car yet to see.
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