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Old 07-14-2019, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 1995 geo tracker 16 valve that the oil pump failed and broke the camshaft. I purchased a good running 1997 16 valve and want to swap the 97 into the 95.

What all needs changed? I understand that I am going from obd2 to obd1. Please help.
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I have a 1995 geo tracker 16 valve that the oil pump failed and broke the camshaft. I purchased a good running 1997 16 valve and want to swap the 97 into the 95.

What all needs changed? I understand that I am going from obd2 to obd1. Please help.
I'd replace the intake manifold (including the injector harness), as it has all the original OBD I emissions stuff, and the distributor. Good luck

ps as long as it's out, I'd definitely ream out the EGR tube & passageways plus the exhaust manifold passage.
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If you wish to keep the 97 engine as OBD2, you would also need to swap out the harness and the computer, in order to run the engine that way. For example, the OBD2 engine will have a crankshaft sensor that the OBD1 didnít have, and without the OBD2 computer, things wonít run properly. There ARE posts on this forum where people have done this swap, but kept their car as OBD1, where some of the OBD2 sensors arenít activated. You donít advise the transmissions from either car - and that can be a bit of an issue as well, regarding the ECU.
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Does the egr need to be switched? The 95 has a thrmoprobe and the 97 does not.
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Does the egr need to be switched? The 95 has a thrmoprobe and the 97 does not.
Yes it does.
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Thanks everyone for the help so far.

So I have the engine in the car. I switched the intake manifold, distributor, egr ,wiring harness(all from the 95), and fuel injectors. I have everything plugged in except the cps( I understand it will not affect anything using the obd1)

I crank the engine and it will not start. I have fire at the plugs and think it is timed correctly. I also have fuel to the fuel rail. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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My first question would be what ECU is now in the car?
You say that the manifold, distributor, EGR, etc., is FROM the 95???
A compression test will indicate if the engine is timed correctly.
And a noid test will indicate if the ECU is providing the signal to the injectors.
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Even though you have spark, you probably have the distributor stabbed incorrectly.
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Yes the ecu is from the 95. I will do a compression test next.
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And, as Ranger says, check your distributor. You fire 1-3-4-2 and your rotor turns counterclockwise in the 16v.
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