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Old 07-12-2019, 07:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,
I drive on the full syntetic 5W30 oil in my Kizu 2.4 AWD CVT as provided in the manual for my region. I drove the route ~ 800km which I beat quite dynamically. Long sections 170 km/h and for a short time 200 km/h.
Before the route I had the oil level full, and after the route I have a lot below the minimum. It was maybe 1cm on the bayonet.
Do your kizashi "drink" the oil when driving fast and this is normal for this model or is it likely that the engine will be completely refurbished?
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I added 1 liter of oil and I'm half between min and full..
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What was the level before you started this trip?
when was the oil last changed?
when was the car last driven like this?
do you do a lot of slow speed stop start driving?

its common for cars driven around town then taken out onto the open road to do this as condensation build up in the oil and "hot" driving like you have done drives the moisture out of the oil. Your consumption does seem excessive tho. Is it still using oil? and fill it to the full mark when cold, not when hot.

Old mechanics trick, start cold engine, idle for 30 seconds, shut off and check level, should be just below full mark. If checked cold and not run overnight, level should be just over the full mark. Oil is also used as a coolant, and less oil means less cooling, so maintaining the correct level is always advisable.
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when was the oil last changed?
I bought this car 1.5 months ago. The owner said he changed the oil in February, the oil on the dipstick looked fresh, so that would more or less agree.

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when was the car last driven like this?
I rode earlier fast (~ 160km / h) but max for 50km

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do you do a lot of slow speed stop start driving?
I live in a big city, so yes.

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its common for cars driven around town then taken out onto the open road to do this as condensation build up in the oil and "hot" driving like you have done drives the moisture out of the oil. Your consumption does seem excessive tho. Is it still using oil? and fill it to the full mark when cold, not when hot.
Yes, I have to buy more oil and fill it with full one. Of course, on a cold engine. I go calmly and see if it starts to wear off.

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Old mechanics trick, start cold engine, idle for 30 seconds, shut off and check level, should be just below full mark. If checked cold and not run overnight, level should be just over the full mark. Oil is also used as a coolant, and less oil means less cooling, so maintaining the correct level is always advisable.
ok, i will do this test

I use Shell oil because the previous owner used it. In my previous car I used Fuchs Titan Pro Race. I wonder whether to change here for the same oil. As a user with a lot of experience on the forum, do you know what oil is most often chosen by kizashi owners here and the most recommended?
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What was the level before you started this trip?
before the trip he was on full

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when was the oil last changed?
I bought it recently but the owner speaks in February. After the purchase I checked, he was full and had a nice color. Far from black, so it seems to be true

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when was the car last driven like this?
Yes, I've had it for 1.5 months and I've driven it fast but not that much. Before this trip I probably did not exceed 170km / h and I traveled so short sections, about 20km. And besides, it's a lot of traffic in the city, meaning traffic lights

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do you do a lot of slow speed stop start driving?
Quite a lot because I live in a big city
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yesterday I was pouring in full oil and passed ~ 100km very calmly. turning it on only when overtaking. Today I will see if the level has dropped.


The ends of the exhaust look terrific. As if he literally spilled oil:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-N...2fcdRpLuGq4uN5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Q...FnRNKzZ8U0CeOZ


I checked the spark plugins and they look pretty nice. They are not oiled.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-P...o0_7_rKmcvJjOH
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-S...Hz3y-barPpVMuY
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-T...qRU2XK3oa2yeux
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-b...pwyK-wjcIhUCAX
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the plugs look great, the exhaust, not so much.
Keep an eye on the consumption.
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I wonder what may be wrong that the exhale looks like this.
I see two options:
-valve gasket
-rings
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I wonder what may be wrong that the exhale looks like this.
I see two options:
-valve gasket
-rings
stuck / clogged / faulty PCV valve would be my first check, after that its Valve train, head gasket, rings etc.

check and clean PCV valve, should rattle if you shake it.

Monitor the consumption, if its only using it at high speed its quite possible its a PCV valve.
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Do you have image/instruction where I can find it how check it?
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