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Old 06-10-2013, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Did 93 Sami come with a carb???

My Sami is sucking air where the carb is screwed(?) together I also noticed permatex on top and bottom of base gasket. So went to autozone to get base gasket. They say it doesn't have carb. Ok I'm not an Asa mech. but I no a carb when I see one!
So has it been swapped or is autozone wrong AGAIN!
How do I no what year carb intake etc?
And what vac lines an ele. Wires can I remove without making more problems???
No emissions check here. Cat converter removed by previous owner.
If I had the smarts to do it I would throw all that Sh* t in the trash including computer!
Any help greatly appreciated
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Old 06-10-2013, 04:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That depends - where was the 93 Sami built for - a US market Sami would have been fuel injected (TBI) from 90 onward - it's very easy to mistake throttle body injection for a carburetor.

Doesn't the fact that it has a computer suggest it might have fuel injection?

Time to apologise to the guys at Autozone.
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Doesn't the fact that it has a computer suggest it might have fuel injection?


The Hitachi carb that came on US models had an ECU that:

took inputs from...
an O2 sensor
pair of micro switches for the throttle
a barometric switch
engine coolant and engine compartment temperature switches
and a 5th gear switch in the transmission

It used all this to control..
a mixture control solenoid
a vent solenoid in the float bowl
idle up actuator
vacuum secondary
fuel cut valve
and the EGR valve.

so yes it would have a computer if it had a carburetor and one that was just as complex as if not more complex than one that would run a TBI.

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A '93 samurai would have had a TBI if it was sold in the US. If the carb has no wires coming from it and just hoses for fuel, vacuum advance, and water choke then it might be a Webber. Any carb would have a float bowl sticking out to the side of the barrels and would be pretty obvious.
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It's a Sami carb uploading photos for first time awaiting approval
Carb is setting next to me on table.
They used permatex on base gasket and u can see it on intake gasket. Two large green plug and smaller yellow one 10 wires total. And a lot of vac lines.
So fordum unless tbi has a float. Not sayn I'm sorry just yet. Lol
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The Hitachi carb that came on US models had an ECU.
That's why I used the word suggest ...
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It's a Sami carb uploading photos for first time awaiting approval
Carb is setting next to me on table.
They used permatex on base gasket and u can see it on intake gasket. Two large green plug and smaller yellow one 10 wires total. And a lot of vac lines.
So fordum unless tbi has a float. Not sayn I'm sorry just yet. Lol
You still owe them an apology - what you have is either not a 93 Sami, or, not the original fuel system.
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They ordered the gasket. Just had to go back to an 80's model.
How do I no what year or are all rebuild kits the same?
Not rebuilding at this time bottom carb screws and top screws were very loose so Gona locktite them and reinstall.
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As far as autozone the employee has a tracker and tells me the drivetrain is the same as a samurai.
We all no that ain't so.
I believed him when replacing rear bearings and brakes found out they ain't the same but maybe he don't consider the rear end drivetrain?
Lol
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Hey - there are quite a few Samurais out there with Tracker drivetrains in them - maybe he never saw an unmolested one.
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if you do decide to do a full rebuild here is a place online that sells the whole kit.

lowrange off-road suzuki samurai oem hitachi dfb306 carburetor rebuild kit
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