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Old 08-18-2012, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm new here, but I've been lurking on here for a couple years. Yall have already helped me a ton. I also have over 3k posts on a supermoto forum, so I'm aware of forum etiquette.

I have some questions hopefully some of you might have an answer for me. It's different, I swear. I've searched all iver until my eyes bled.*

I have a 91 Sammy. Stock motor, stock axles. It's got what I believe to be the calmini 5" SPOA lift, and 31"s. I use it for DD, and a weekend puddle jumper and hunting vehicle.*

It rides like a rock, and flexes like a board. Ive come to the conclusion I need yj springs, and boomerang shackles. But my thinking is, I already have the lift, I should be able to get away with the 'cheap' yj kit from low range and some OE yj springs? I'm ok with getting longer brake lines and whatnot. But I dont really want to go any taller, or any bigger tires. I would think the steering should be ok. Being it already has all that. I can post pictures of what I have if it will help.*

Low range has a yj kit for like $189. And sells the springs for $89. Along with the bushings for $25. If I could get away with not much more than this, it would be awesome. Just looking for a smoother ride, and more flex. Remember, this is not a dedicated trail rig. Just a halfway between daily driver/puddle jumper.

Thanks in advance. I'm exited about finally registering on this forum. Instead of just prowling.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Anything else you might need a snapshot of, or question to help you help me with my question, I'll do the best I can. Thanks again!
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, the 'cheap' kit you mention is actually just for one axle... You need to get the front setup seperate. It is also a decent kit, as is most everything Sky builds. Just didn't want you to think it is going to be that inexpensive.

The higher priced setup is from Trail Tough. I have used some of Sky's stuff in the past, but Brent's YJ kit from Trail Tough (also sold through Low Range) is the quality that others try to live up to. It can take the abuse, and is worth every penny more.
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Well, the more I think about it, the more I think its not the way I want to go. I think it's going to be a big. It's to chew, and a lot more expensive than I thought.

I think the way to go is to do the RUF swap, with missing links and a CJ swap with either missing links or not in the rear. I think being I already have longer drive shafts and drop pitman arm, as well as the spring over lift for 2" wide springs with the shock mounts, I'll have the least about of obsticles. I'll need to measure for the right shocks after the swap, longer brakes (if mine aren't long enough) and bump stops if needed.

Am I on track here? I think I've got a pretty good grasp on what all I need to do but if y'all can point out anything I'm not considering, feel free to steer me right.

This thing as it sits will damn near bounce you out of it in an old cow track or hor root, and you can nearly 3 wheel it on a gopher or ant mound.
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A better ride isn't going to be inexpensive. For a smoother ride, YJ's are the way to go.
CJ/RUF does work, but they are actually a stiffer ride than a standard SPOA. If you were to add a heavy aftermarket bumpers and tire carrier it would smooth out the CJ's a bit. There is no weight at all in the stock stuff.

My zook actually got lower when I went to the TT YJ setup. It previously had CJ's on it.

Time to plan, save, revise, save and then go for it.
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I do currently have a big (ok, not REAL big) calmini bumper on the front, and plan on going with the crawler2 on the back with a full size spare and hilift.

So all these reports of RUF/cj swaps being a better ride are bogus?

I don't have a $10 budget or anything, but I also don't want to spend more than the vehicle is worth on the lift alone either. I've also read about going RUF with yj's out back.

I thought I had it figured out untill you said RUF/cj was going to be just as rough. Now I'm lost again. I can't imagine it getting worse. It rides like a skateboard right now. Have to go 4lo in even the smoothest looking pastures.
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Experiment with removing leaves. CJ's can be stiff out of the box, so play with it.
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I keep reading and reading. Everything I've found has been people 'claiming' RUF provides better quality. So hopefully that will improve it a little. Of course yj's all the way around would be ideal. But unfortunately it's going to be a budget swap, and I'd like to utilize as much of the components already on the vehicle as not to be rebuying things. That's why I'm leaning towards the RUF/cj route. I already have most of it. With the mounting plates and shock mounts. I 'think' all I'll have to do is get the cj springs (5 pack I've read is best, but as you said, I'll have to do some trial and error) then the mounting brackets for the springs and revolving shackles. New shocks, and possibly longer brake lines. Hopefully my longer drive shafts will be long enough, if not, I'll go the extended slip yoke route.

I think (again, THINK) I can get away with this for a few hundred bucks. Well, maybe $500 or so..
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So, how did it turn out? Im in the same boat right now, my truck will go anywhere but its getting slammed on the rocks. Did you manage to improve the ride for $500?
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