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Old 07-02-2012, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi everyone

i've gone and got myself a 1985 sierra 1.3 (with a 1.6 vitara motor)

i havent had it long, but it has had this whining noise the entire time, it starts at about 50km/h and just gets louder. it stops when i am off the throttle

it has a G16A mounted to a 1.3 gearbox going to a 1.0 transfer case (seems logical right ) aparently that was cause the previous owner couldnt get the 1.3 case to change gear

the odo has 268k on it but that dosent count for the engine and transfer (might not mean anything else either)

i was wondering if this noise is normal...ish and what it might be

the person doing the road worthy inspection muttered something about the transfer case when he was looking at it

thanks in advance

PS: be careful, it's my first time (with a zook and a forum )
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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add 85w gear oil in it and you may need a rubber hose to drip it in there. its about 5 bucks or a lil more depending on type of oil and store
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add 85w gear oil in it and you may need a rubber hose to drip it in there. its about 5 bucks or a lil more depending on type of oil and store
thanks rey, sorry for the late reply

it took me ages to get the oil in it (i did my rear diff too) but the transfer case level wasnt too low

the gearbox level is fine

it got a little quieter then before, but it is still quite loud. it is less noticeible about 100kph and now it seems loudest at about 80kph

are sierra's notoriously loud inside, i think its only marginally quieter them my 1980 hilux that has a 2' exhaust and a free flow muffler
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i dont know i have a 87 sammurai in the usa california. we had only 86-95 sammys here i used a pump into a quart of oil were i put the gear oil in and hand pumped it into the trasnfer case transmission and rear diff i havent done the front diff yet.yes my too still wines too but not as loud as before. im not sure if its normal. its also my first sammy and second suzuki car i had a 92 swift gti a while back ....you have sj410 i have the sj413 mine is a little bit bigger about one inch and the 1.3 liter 8 valve gas engine. yours is 1.0 8 valve from factory
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it starts at about 50km/h and just gets louder. it stops when i am off the throttle
Drive train noise origin is often difficult to ID, but you sound as if you may be having classic ring and pinion wear / noise.

I'd get the vehicle on a lift, get your wheels spinning and investigate the sound source from below.
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....you have sj410 i have the sj413 mine is a little bit bigger about one inch and the 1.3 liter 8 valve gas engine. yours is 1.0 8 valve from factory
mine is stamped sj50 and it was a 1.3 from factory.
is there a specific meaning to what these other codes mean?


i dont know why it has a 1.0 transfer case in it, there might have been huge tyres once upon a time.

the guy i bought it off muttered something about shift linkages too. Are 1.3 and 1.0 cases a direct swap as far as that is concerned? cause i want to change the final drive ratio cause at the moment it is doing just over 3000rpm at 80kph (which i suspect is a little high) and i am using about 13L/100 (18.1 mpg)


thanks for the idea max

did you literally mean have someone in the car "driving it" while someone else (who is more game then me :P ) listens to the noises underneath it?
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look on youtube.com theres videos translated in english from japan telling the whole history of the jimny sierra samurai from the first one to the last ones now.your set up up dont seem right to me. it may have been changed over time by some one else bcuz thats should be a 1.0 4 cylinder the first ones in the 60s came two stroke 2 cylinders. zande even 3 cylinder turbo then the 1.0 4inline and the 1.3 4inline. i dont know the name of the videos but theres like 2-3 of them some from japan some from south america. did you knnow the whole truck was really designed by land rover.... suzuki just put the engine or better said there engine in it the whole idea built and all is land rover. look up the land rover defender. they are indentical just full size big truck.
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mine does 60 miles per hour at 3200-3400 r.p.m. thats with my garmin gps speed and looking at my tachmeter. all stock i get 30-33mpg city and 40-42mpg highway.... yup believe it or not.stock rear diff stock transfer case tranny all original 70,000 miles of it im the second owner.il tell you some other time how i did it you can too wasnt or isnt hard to accomplish.
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did you literally mean have someone in the car "driving it" while someone else (who is more game then me :P ) listens to the noises underneath it?
In essence, yes!

On a lift, raise the entire vehicle just far enough off the garage floor to start the engine and engage the trans / wheels. Then raise the vehicle further to observe and listen for the noise producing portion of the drive train.

If you want to vary the speed...yes, have a 2nd person IN the vehicle to do same.
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1.3 gear box on a 1.o tranny is going to be noisy...but there could be other things like clutch release bearing, universal joints that may be the source...you need a good old school mechanic...
Oh and make sure the oil you use in transmisssion and tranny is gl4...
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