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Old 06-17-2012, 02:59 PM  
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Default New here. Help! Headlight HID install, not lighting up?

Hi I'm new here.

I have a 87 sami.
The sealed beams work fine. I bought a hid kit 35w 4300k and IPF H4 housings. It did not light up but the hi-beam switch worked. Everything is new.

Do I need the relay that uses direct battery power to light the HID even though they're only 35w?

The HID kits balasts or amps only plugs into one side of the original harness socket, I guess it is just for the triggering it to go on/off and hi beam.

I've seen two reccommended relay harness one from a northwest co. and the other from IPF.. Will getting one of these solve my problem or is it simpler like a different harness and not relays?
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:01 PM  
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Here's a pic of my sami with newer grill.
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From the sound of it, you bought the wrong HID kit - send it back - and get yourself a set of good H4 bulbs (I like Sylvania SilverStar Ultras) and the IPF relay kit - HID lamps in H4 fixtures don't work very well, and are illegal in most countries - with an '87 Samurai, I'd guess you're in the US - HID retrofits are illegal in the US.
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This is for offroading only. I got the H4-3(9003) bulb. So basically I need the relay harness if upgrading to anything vs the sealed beam correct?
I figured it would work because it is 35w.

On a side note. I bought trucklite leds and they didn't work either. The odd thing was the aluminum housing would conduct electricity and the light would be slightly on even though the light switch was turned off. Maybe a knock off truck light I don't know here is a pic of them and the box.



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The relay harnesses serve two purposes - first is they allow you to use lamps with a higher power rating (higher amp draw) than the stock wiring can accomodate, and the second is that they allow stock lamps to be used with heavier gauge wiring than stock, so that there is reduced voltage drop and increased light output - since the HIDs have a lower amp draw than the stock lamps, the stock wiring will be adequate, and it's unlikely that either relay harness will solve your problem.

You may have purchased an HID kit intended to fit the lamps you purchased, which may not necessarily match the existing wiring in the vehicle - contact the HID kit supplier for assistance.
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Samurai's headlights use a switched ground power connection. Use of anything besides the oem stock lights is not going to work very well if at all.

Do a Google Search for samurai headlight relay mod.

What the headlight mod does is give you full battery power rather than the reduced voltage of the old stock wiring. It also removes the quirkiness of the switch ground system.

Samurai NightProwler - Bright light headlight kit or just make your own like most of us.
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Well, I found out one problem was that my negative ground was not good.
So I put the negative to the battery and got one light to light up. the other I could not get a ground to. I swapped bulbs and they're both good..
So I go to the auto store buy wire and crimper- $27 total.. Only to find that it does not work again. I did the same thing I did last time to get at least one HID to light up and it didn't light up..
So I guess I'm gonna return them. It was an awesome feeling getting one bulb to light up now I don't know what is going on. No fuse is burnt out either. Very odd..

On a side note, I found there are LED H4 bulbs but they don't have a hi-beam as far as I can tell..
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If you are going to drive it on the street, please keep it legal and stay away from the HIDs.

The best advice is to make or buy the headlight harness from nwautowire, and install either Sylvania's Silverstar or Xtravision headlights. I did the mod and installed the Xtravisions, and have been very satisfied with the results.
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I might just buy a standard h4 bulb in it for now.
I don't use this truck much but the lights gotta go. It still has the sealed beams on it.

Thinking about going with a IPF fat boy 2 bulb.
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Well, I found out one problem was that my negative ground was not good.
There is no "negative ground" per se with the Suzuki headlights - this is what Haptown was telling you in his post...

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Samurai's headlights use a switched ground power connection. Use of anything besides the oem stock lights is not going to work very well if at all.
There are ways to make it work, but, I'd say you're better off with a stock system.
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