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Old 03-14-2012, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New clutch kit and grinding when pedal is out... Please help

I am brand new to the samurai world and I can't wait to take off but I gotta get this clutch right first. I have an '86 samurai. I just bought her at an auction and I have no history.
I do know it didn't move at all when I tried to shift in 4 or 2wd. I replaced both the shifter sheet and the tranny one too with a new bolt to hold it in place. Still no go...
We figured it must be the clutch so I bought the kit with TO bearing and pilot bearing along with the clutch. I didn't resurface the fly wheel because it was perfectly smooth so we just used emery cloth on it. Now she moves forward and back just fine except when I let out the clutch all the way it has a grinding (more like a rubbing) sound. I put the clutch in and it goes away. Let out and the top couple inches the noise comes back.
I am not an experienced mechanic but I have had some time in the past working along with other who knew what they were doing.
Did I put it together wrong? I was following the samurai manual... When you tighten the bolts from the clutch to the flywheel does it go on with pressure? Is my throw out bearing in wrong? Is it my TRANNY!?!? Aye, please if someone knows about his situation I could really use some help.
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It sounds like your throw out bearing is touching the the clutch when released. Lengthen the clutch cable some to get a little more free travel.
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Mine makes a little noise when clutch is disengaged in nuetral I think its transmission bearings (though in my case it is very slight noise).
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Let out and the top couple inches the noise comes back.
IF that is associated with the vehicle just beginning to move at the same time...it's a transmission (bearing probably) issue.
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Smile Thanks for your responses.

That was what I tried to do right after I posted the help thread. I readjusted the cable so that I have the right amount of play in the clutch pedal. The TO ber. is brand new but it looked like there was only one way it could go on... Does anyone know if the clutch should have resistance as it gets bolted on to the flywheel? That is worrying me because for all I know it might be backwards. Does the stickin out part of the clutch go towards the flywheel or the tranny?
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Does anyone know if the clutch should have resistance as it gets bolted on to the flywheel?
The pressure plate portion bolt take up? Then yes!
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Could you explain what I should do again? You think it is my pressure plate in backwards or TO ber?
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Does anyone know if the clutch should have resistance as it gets bolted on to the flywheel?
Are you not asking if initially during assembly, that the pressure plate sits OFF the flywheel, thus you had to pull up the plate flush to the flywheel using the bolts? (that activity gives the clutch disc the pre-load / clamping force).

I thought that was what you were asking anyway.

Any who...IF your noise is only happening when the vehicle starts to move off, I'd say transmission issues.
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Ok, the noise is there when the clutch is out and the vehicle is parked. I push in and it stops. So from what you are saying it is not the tranny.
I actually ment if the CLUTCH PLATE, with the four springs, sticking out side to the pressure plate or towards the tranny... Is it even possible to put it on backwards? I'm gonna be home tonight to play with it again.
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This is too hard. (J/K)

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Ok, the noise is there when the clutch is out and the vehicle is parked. I push in and it stops. So from what you are saying it is not the tranny.
What I'm saying is that it IS the tranny.

Releasing the clutch causes the trans internals to spin. Clutch in (pedal down), and you eliminate the trans from the noise equation, in other words.

Didn't you have the exact same (noise) symptoms before you pulled the clutch apart?
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