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Old 05-19-2011, 09:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all.

I just replaced the leaf springs, shocks, bushings with brand new counterparts because the old set had the samu stand lower on the passenger side.

Now that the said items have been replaced, the passenger side remains to be lower than the driver's side. But it's a bit higher than before.

The difference in clearance is about 3/4 an inch, when the left and right sides are compared.

Measured:
- on level ground
- tire pressure equalized
- body has same clearance from chassis all around
- axles are level
- no load on vehicle
- all stock / no lift
- 3/4 inch difference measured from tip of tire to tip of fender flare on all sides. The passenger side sits lower than fthe driver's side

What could be the possible cause for the body twist/leaning towards the passenger side?
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Some might say say it is from the torque generated by the high-revving 1.3, but I tend to think is is the result of gas tank being mostly on the right side.
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Yeah, I that could be a contributing factor indeed.

After staring at it for 2 hours this mrng... Hahaha! I found out that the the flat buahings in between the body and the chassis are worn out on the passenger side! They sit about quarter of an inch flatter than the ones on the right side.

The twist is most shown when the tire carrier and rear door are fully open. The weight of the carrier and the door + the fiberglass is terrible weight for that rear corner.

I figured the bushings shouldn't be there in the first place. I think a good body lift would do the trick of straightening things out. I was worried that the chassis might be twisted.
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All contributing factors and the lean to the right is considered normal.

What replacements springs did you use?
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Glad to hear that haptown. So the half an inch droop on the passenger side is normal then?

I used original specs, but aftermarket TIGER brand leaf springs to replace the near flattened old ones. Then KYB shocks to go with the springs.

Will have to replace the shocks though after the lift, but that would be after a few more months.
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That is the nature of any sprung vehicle. Whenever you add weight to a side or corner, then the springs will compress under the load.

As a test, measure the height on driver side (LH or RH), then get in the driver's seat and have someone measure it again. You will see that that side has dropped due to the extra weight. Now if you have a RH drive Samurai with the battery, fuel tank, and possibly the spare tire on the same side, then this is going to be even more pronounced than on the LH drive.

I look up the Tiger leaf springs and they don't seem to be sold in the US. Where are located at?
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Thanks much for the heads up! This is my first leaf spring ride and was worried that it could mean permanent body twisting.

I'm from the Philippines. I just wish I could be any closer to the usa during these times as shipping in lifting kits and the like is a total pain.

Regarding a spoa lift, there are some shops that could do it without the kit. But I wish there were more literature on how to do a proper spoa lift as the samu is on hi-ways half the time.
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You could try swapping the spring packs across, some packs are handed.
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Thanks for the tip rhinoman.

So the right side would be swapped with the left side packs?

But I doubt if it would solve the problem. The old packs showed the same droop. And the new packs aren't even 2 weeks old. I'd keep the swapping in mind though.

Do your samus naturally have bushings in between the body and the chassis? Mine does and I don't think they're original.
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There should be square rubber pads between the body and the chassis.
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