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Old 03-15-2011, 02:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ok i know theres a few atricles touching this subject but unfortunetly thoose articles confused me more than helped me because most didnt touch the issue of "tail" "stop" and blinker for rear LEDs the users did LED front bumper lights..Well let me start off with what i have tryed and what i am trying to achieve..i have 2 individual 8 inch LED strips that were lazer cut into my custom rear bumper and i need them to have running lights/stop lights and individual turn signals, yes they are compatible for all 3. all my stock lights work perfect now but when i try to hook up the LEDs i can get the stop and running lights to work but when i hit the turn signals they dont blink.? i know i have read about the tridon EP34 flasher and i purchased a ep34 from another brand not tridon but both part numbers and flashers i believe are the same but what was not clear on other posts is that a"pin number "7" needed to be modified to work? i am aware that LED have a lower impidence than a regular stock light bulb but i read that, that flasher should fix the issue? well it didnt? but also i did not modify it(some users said they didnt have to modify anything) now i have also read about a trailer light conversion kit that i tryed as well and nothing? i am really close to pulling my hair out if i had any?i know the stock tail lights have an extra wire for the reverse light and im not hooking that to anything?(because i have no reverse lights nor do i need them) i really dont know what im doing wrong or what i am NOT doing right ? please guys any pics or imput would be greatly appreciated and the LEDS have a white black and red wire i know this sounds
ODD but the white is ground,black is running and red is signal..please no links to articles that will just confuse me i have searched and read most of them and still no pin point help just different senarios and issues not related to my exact problem. i really dont want to trailer my sammy 30 minutes away to my friends stereo shop so please any helpful info would help so much...also i dont mind if my hazards dont function correctly or at all. I heard that they wont and im also aware that you can only run 1 set of LED either front or rear and im fine with that..1 more thing i am trying to utilize the stock plugs behind the stock tail lights so i can just unplug my electrical when removing my bumper. Thanks again guys i really dont know what else to do...

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Myfriend had a similar problem with the leds on his motorcycle. He had to get a different flasher that is not made to sense a bulb out[flash fast]. he foudn several articles about adding resitors for loads to make the flashers work also. the problem is probably the flasher does not see a load at all. try searching on some motorcycle sites.
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yeah, what camisami said. The flasher is looking for a specific resistance fom the bulb. Even an upgraded flasher is still looking for a specific resistance. From the appearance of your housings, you aren't going to have as much resistance from those led's as most people would have with OEM replacement led bulbs. So you'll probably need inline resistors or sensorless flashers. My LED bulbs are the same size and connector as an oem bulb but have about 10 led's in them. They still only have about 1/4 the resistance of an OEM bulb. Your lights look like they may only have 3 or 4 dedicated led's for the flashers. They don't look like they'd be very visible regardless if you got them to work or not.
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yeah, what camisami said. The flasher is looking for a specific resistance fom the bulb. Even an upgraded flasher is still looking for a specific resistance. From the appearance of your housings, you aren't going to have as much resistance from those led's as most people would have with OEM replacement led bulbs. So you'll probably need inline resistors or sensorless flashers. My LED bulbs are the same size and connector as an oem bulb but have about 10 led's in them. They still only have about 1/4 the resistance of an OEM bulb. Your lights look like they may only have 3 or 4 dedicated led's for the flashers. They don't look like they'd be very visible regardless if you got them to work or not.
Baratacus your input is always appreciated well let me start with the resistors..i purchased a set from autozone but im hesitant to try them because ive heard nightmare stories about them getting so hot that they can melt and also cause fires or a fire hazard..2nd where in line do i run the resistors? close to the LEDs or by the flasher? i may just have to try the resistors, also my LEDs have a clear lens but light up RED and have about 20-24 LEDs inside and are SUPER BRIGHT i dont know what you meant by 3 or 4 dedicated leds for flashers and that if i got them to work they wouldnt be very visible???? i have these same LEDS on my trailer and are amazingly bright..i purchased a set of red lens and clear lens but the clear look way better on with my white paint job. My last resort is to take it to my friends stereo shop he has a master tech electrician that said he could have them working in 10-15 minutes?
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So they flash ok when you hook the regualr lights back up?
IF they do then try hooking up a bulb in with the leds and try it- if that fixes it then try to find a way to run a bulb in the system.
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So they flash ok when you hook the regualr lights back up?
IF they do then try hooking up a bulb in with the leds and try it- if that fixes it then try to find a way to run a bulb in the system.
I see what your saying and that could work the flasher would recognize the stock bulb and the led would just be added to the stock set up.. But then I would have to deal with hiding the stock light bulb right?
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ok I didn't know the whole strip flashed. I thought it had a section that was red leds for tail, a section for amber for signal and a section of white leds for reverse. I figured an appropriate sized section for turn signal and guestimated about 3 or 4 leds. BZZZZT! nice try but no ciagar for Baratacus...
as for the resistors. Ceramic resistors will not melt. They can get hot if overloaded, but they won't melt. You can put them anywhere in line between the led's and the flasher. If there's not enough load to melt an LED then there isn't enough load to heat up the resistor to the point where it will melt through stuff so I wouldn't worry about putting it against something plastic.
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You could put small trailer clearance lights underor behind bumper on side like maker light or just up under the body. NOt perfect solutions but workable.
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