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Old 02-14-2011, 12:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just bought a 88 samurai and it is not getting any spark. i replaced the coil, dist and igniter. it has power to the coil in run and when its cranking but no spark. if any one has any ideas of things to check i would greatley appreciate any help or advice.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This may seem like a silly question, but we have to start somewhere.
You say you replaced the distributor, igniter and coil correct? When you replaced the distributor, did you have the engine set to TDC (top dead center)? This will ensure the that distributor is not 180 degrees off. Next, when you replaced everything, did you test the integrity of the wires? I just found that my wires were making poor contact due to dry rot. Also have you replaced the cap and rotor?
And lastly do you have an FSM (factory service manual). If not let me know, and I will send you one.

Let me know and we'll go from there,

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yes i did make sure engine was at tdc on compression stroke, tested the wires with multi meter and all of them tested good. just picked up a cap and rotor but havnt installed them yet the old cap/rotor look good but i figure its a $4 part may as well replace it and rule it out too. i do have a fsm also. one question i had was about the coil. it says it has to be used with an external resistor but there is no ballast resistor anywhere. i am assuming that the ignitor works as a resistor?
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on the 88 samurai the ignitor and resistor are in the distributor. Did you check the ground on the dist? If it's got a bad ground or the ground isn't hooked up you won't get any spark.

Do you have spark at the distributor? I.E. If you unplug the plug wire from the dist, and put your finger in the hole, do you get a jolt whe it's cranking?
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i know the ground wire is connected on the dist housing where the distributor goes into. is there another ground going direcley to the distributor i should check or is that it? i havnt put my finger on it to see if there is spark there. are you talking on the cap where the coil wire goes?
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The most common solution to this problem is replacing the shifter sheet ring in your transfer case of the 80-90 samurai.To get more information you can go through this website
wiki.answers.com.
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how would that cause no spark?
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As far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with your spark probelm... A broken shifter sheet would prevent you from shifting, probably locking your tranny into neutral until you replaced it. But spark, I don't see it. Maybe Craig can find the actual site on Wiki.Answers, for you and it would explain everything.

I'm not sure about this, but have you checked the ECM for leaky capacitors? It could be that you are getting power to the coil, but then the ECM can't tell the car what to do with it. Just a thought. Check out RockAuto Auto Parts if you find that you need a new one.

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early samurai ignition is mechanically controlled. as far as I know there is just the one ground wire from the dizzy. If that's got a good connection then probably not the problem. Sticking finger in the dizzz's cap is one way to check to see if it's sparking, I suppose a less dramatic way is to hold the plug wire just off the contact and listen for the snapping noise of the spark arc.
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i have wondered about the ecm. is there any way easy to check that? im starting to wonder if i didnt get a bad coil or igniter from the parts store. not likley but possible.
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