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Old 05-11-2010, 12:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How is everyone ive got a 94 samuari its got a spoa lift as well as 3" lift springs. i like the height and the tire clearance but this thing rides like a brick. is the any tips that can help me get it to ride a little better without loosing the height???? thanks in advance

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Other than lowering your tire pressure or using longer YJ springs (which also adds flex through the use of "missing link"-style shackles - something that overly-complicates the suspension system IMHO), there is no simple solution to a crappy ride.

The Samurai is a short-wheelbased vehicle and that is the major reason why it rides like a brick.
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I had the same problem with the 2" lifted Bonz-Eye springs in spoa. They ride really stiff.
I went to the Trail Tough YJ missing link kit and I added a second main spring with the eyes cut off to the YJ 5 pack springs to make them six pack springs. That add about an inch of lift to the YJ springs.
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Since the rig is sitting with the shackle in the full down position it indicates that you have zero droop. Usually when you use lifted springs, the spring is slightly longer than stock to accomodate the extra arc. These look like stock length springs that have been re-bent. Without any droop you're going to lift a tire whenever you corner with any kind of speed.
If you look at how much arc you have on your spring, and how short your shackle is (looks stock), you will notice that even if you maxed out your shackle, you only have about 3-4 inches of compression. Pushing the spring past the shackles limit will bend a nice "s" in your spring. So you have about 10 inches of clearance with 4 inches of up-travel. Make sure you set your bump stops so you don't snap or bend a spring if you hit something hard.

That's the trouble with high arches like that. They give you lots of lift but they're very stiff because of the short space between the hanger and the shackle. They're also real wobbly because of the higher center of gravity and no down travel. The only real solution to running a high lift and getting a softer ride is to 3 link it with coils, or put longer leaf springs under it. The other option of course is to use a softer spring with less arch. You'll loose a couple inches of lift, but you will have a much smoother ride and your handling will be a lot less tippy.

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My little Ford Ranger is bouncy as hell. It has blocks in the back and spindles + coil spacers in the front (not 4wd). Terrible ride, heh.
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Thanks Everyone, I Didnt Here About The Yj Set-up Until After I Had Bought The Lift Springs So I Didnt Want To Just Throw Away That $400 But It Looks Like Thats What Im Gonna End Up Doing . Thanks For All The Input.:d
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don't throw them out, there are people out there who want a big tall truck and don't care how it handles or rides. Sell them.
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Yea I Didnt Actually MEAN Throw Them Out But When I Get The Cash Ill Def Be Swapping Them Out For The Yj Set Up And Trying To Sell The Lift Springs. As Of Right Now Im Still Waitng For Parts To Come So Ive Only Gone Up The Street And Back So The Springs Are Still New But Im Sure By The Time I Switch They'll Have Some Miles On Them.
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run a more longer, flatter spring. then if needed add a body lift.
you also don't say what shock you are running...
I'm also running 33's. Not saying it rides like a catty but you also can't expect it to. Do you really need that much lift? Also remember new springs are stiff until they loosen up. Drive is over some ruff stuff for a few hundred miles and they will be softer. But again, shocks?
Really want it smooth, convert to coil springs.
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I Know My Shocks Are An Issue But Even With Out Them Hooked Up Its Still Really Stiff.i Like The Height With The 33's But I Cant Stand The "stuffed" Look And I Hate When Tires Rub , So Thats Why I Went This High. I Will Eventually Go To The Yj Springs And Missing Link But I Heard That With The Missing Link They Arnt So Great On Road. I Just Picked Up An 88 Sammi Today So Who Knows I Might Drop The Red One Down And Build A Full Out Off Road Rig Out Of The 88.....unsure Yet.
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