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Old 04-15-2010, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Jimny 99 and ELM327 scanner tool

Is there anybody who has tried the
ELM327 USB Vehicle OBD-2 Scanner Tool , on Suzuki Jimny model 1999,
Or Any other years ??
Does it works ?

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DealExtreme: $29.88 ELM327 USB Vehicle OBD-2 Scanner Tool

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Old 04-15-2010, 05:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Although the 1999 Jimny may have the 16 pin connector for an OBD-II code scanner, it will not work.

You will need to read the codes by counting how many times the Check Engine light flashes once you have connected a paper clip across the relevant two connectors in the open white connector located behind the glove box, as per the manual.

If this is not clear or you don't have access to the manual, let me know.

Edit: If you are not from the UK, then the above statement may not be correct.

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Thanks, I am not from the UK I am from the middle east :-),
I need the scan tool not only for the error codes but also for diagnostics.
1. Do you have recommendation for elm327 to work with Jimny, or another scanner combined with software.
2. In which Section in the SJ service manual is written about those relevant two connectors ?
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The section of the manual showing the connector and bridging wire is 6E page 13. It looks as though it is behing the glove box on either left or right hand drive.

My 2000 Jimny has a G13BB engine and a 16 pin connector but it will not support an OBD-II scanner. One way of telling is to see how many wires go into the connector. I had just 3 and I believe there has to be 4 to be able to use an OBD-II scanner.

The best that I could do was read out the error codes. Connecting up the paper clip proved very useful, as the Check Engine light flashed 3 times then once. Error code 31 meant a MAP sensor problem which is indeed what my problem was.
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The ELM327 based diagnostic scanners will only work with OBDII vehicles -and the probability is that your '99 Jimny is OBD1 - check the connector under the dash and list which of the pin locations have contacts in them - I'm guessing 4,5,9 & 16.
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Default fordem, Do you mean the DLC?

By saying " check the connector " do you refer to the DLC ?
(Data Link Connector)
Do you have the schema JPG/GIF of the connector ?

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Yes - to the first question and No - to the second.

Suzuki builds vehicles to suit the market requirements - OBDII was a requirement for all new vehicles from 1996 onwards for the US market.

Look at karmolekhare's second post - his 2000 Jimny is OBD1 - apparently he's in the UK, where EOBD (which is actually different to OBDII, but is backward compatible) would not have been required there until 2001.

If your market does not mandate OBDII or EOBD or it's equivalent, the chances of you having an OBDII compliant vehicle are not very high, and one way to determine this is to look at the connector. If your vehicle is not OBDII compliant than the ELM family of tools will not work.

If your vehicle has just the four pins I mentioned earlier then it is NOT OBDII compliant and the only commercially available scanners that will work are dealer specific tools such as the Tech 1 (now obsolete) and Tech 2.

The Suzuki protocols have been reverse engineered and there are ways to get information from the ECU, but as far as I'm aware, no commercially available consumer tools exist.

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Default I guess

Israeli market needed less requirements than the UK in 1999,
I also discovered that most of the garage scanners couldnt read the ECM this why I opened this session, I guess it is OBD1 ... I will check later at the connector...

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I have just spent the last week looking into this problem. I have an ECU from a 1999 Japanese built Jimny and it is OBD1. My understanding is that most Middle East Suzukis up until the last few years are OBD1, they may still be I don't know.
This evening I downloaded the software from the ECU and I will in time add support for the Jimny to my OBD1 software. This software works with most ALDL type interfaces. This software is still very much a work in progress and relies on the Suzuki community to help with the development, Fordem has been very active with this.

RhinoPower

Jimny 81A11


I also have an ECU from a 1999 Spanish built Jimny which I am 99% sure is OBD2. Both these Jimnys are RHD UK models with the G13BB engine. The pinout of the connector is below,Suzuki call their OBD1 interface SDL (Serial Data Link):


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Following your instruction I find out that I have only 3 contacts , 5,9 ,16
(pic is attached )
Can you send when u know which scanner(or/and cable) to use with what software in order do Diagnose the engine, (including links) .
Right now my Check Engine flashings method is 12 , so it is "Normal" trouble code.

Thank you very much
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