emissions control - Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site
Suzuki Forum Suzuki Forums

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site > Suzuki Models > Suzuki Jimny, Sierra & Samurai Forum
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Auto EscrowAuto LoansInsurance Advertise

Suzuki-Forums.com is the premier Suzuki All Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-23-2010, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 17
Gallery: 0
nmluckyduck is on a distinguished road
Default emissions control

I have an 86 Sammi with the 1300 carburated engine. I am wondering if I can remove all the emissions stuff like EGR and the support sensors and such. I know that there is a control module that adjusts the mixture; is the stock carb able to run purely mechanicaly? I have no emmissions testing in my area and understand that I can nurse a bit more power if the EGR is removed. Do I need to remove the ECM? Or can I even get rid of any of this stuff and still run the stock carb?
nmluckyduck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-23-2010, 08:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 1,862
Gallery: 2
Billjohn is on a distinguished road
Default

While stripping down a larger V8 will net you some power, doing it to the 1.3 won't give you enough to make any difference. It will take you more time and effort than it is worth. Just my opinion though.
Billjohn is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-23-2010, 08:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 17
Gallery: 0
nmluckyduck is on a distinguished road
Default

A valid opinion it is Billjon. The time is no big deal as I will need to figure out what is malfunctioning anyway. My engine idles at around 2000 rpm and I know I have vaccuum leaks. This rig sat in the weeds for eight years before I resurected it. It was a condo complex for field mice and pack rats. I got it running and got a spoa done and put some good rubber on and now am setting to fixing the carb issues. Any opinions and suggestions would be helpfull. I am not interested in spending a fortune on engine mods at this point, I think gears and a couple other items need to come first.
nmluckyduck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-24-2010, 02:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 192
Gallery: 0
gasjr4wd is on a distinguished road
Default

IMHO if you really want to screw with things, yank off the oem carb and the 'puter behind the glove box and put on a weber carb. Runs better than stock.
With that said... why not fix the vac leaks. I'm not sure how much extra umph you expect to gain but it's not as much as you think.
Want more power? A lot more power? Gear the thing down. Want more? Swap in a 1.6 sidekick. Want enough power pull down a house? Drop in a VW oil burner.

I'm running the weber carb on the 1.6 with a header and larger pipes & gears.
Would love to have more gear. Why? With these vehicles you don't get them to run the highways doing 90mph. You get them to go through crap you can't even walk though.
gasjr4wd is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-24-2010, 06:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 17
Gallery: 0
nmluckyduck is on a distinguished road
Default

I would love to go diesle! I work for a wrecker company and believe me, the first VW that we can aquire is mine. I just figured I might get a squeek more out of the 1.3 and save a bit of money by not replacing all that stuff but it sounds like it kinda just is what it is. And that's okay, the gears are more important to me than a hot rod engine.
nmluckyduck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-24-2010, 07:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 192
Gallery: 0
gasjr4wd is on a distinguished road
Default

remember, it's just a big air pump.
put on a better air cleaner and more open exhaust and you may have what you are looking for, for now. when I had my 1.3 I ported the head to match the exhaust header. ended up taking off a lot of metal. I did this and the carb swap at the same time.
gasjr4wd is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-24-2010, 10:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,230
Gallery: 0
Baratacus is on a distinguished road
Default

The 1.3 runs pretty cool and has a very limited cooling system on it because of this. If you pull the EGR the combustion chamber runs hotter. It's not going to warp the head because you pulled the EGR valve out, but it will run at a less efficient temperature. You won't gain anything from it if your EGR is working. If your EGR is jacked up then you will be better blocking it off than running a busted one.
The Hitachi can be run purely mechanical but it's going to run poorly. The choke, secondary butterfly, and idle up are all electronic controlled. The best option though would be to put on an aftermarket carb or fix the Hitachi.

Putting a header on it is the easiest mod you can do for the least amount of money and will give you the most power. You can spend a bunch of money and put a linked multi throttle body setup on it, but if you don't open the exhaust up with a larger pipe and headder, you won't get anything out of it.

Last edited by Baratacus; 02-24-2010 at 11:44 AM.
Baratacus is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2010, 04:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 13
Gallery: 0
grand_sea is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baratacus View Post
The 1.3 runs pretty cool and has a very limited cooling system on it because of this. If you pull the EGR the combustion chamber runs hotter. It's not going to warp the head because you pulled the EGR valve out, but it will run at a less efficient temperature. You won't gain anything from it if your EGR is working. If your EGR is jacked up then you will be better blocking it off than running a busted one.
The Hitachi can be run purely mechanical but it's going to run poorly. The choke, secondary butterfly, and idle up are all electronic controlled. The best option though would be to put on an aftermarket carb or fix the Hitachi.

Putting a header on it is the easiest mod you can do for the least amount of money and will give you the most power. You can spend a bunch of money and put a linked multi throttle body setup on it, but if you don't open the exhaust up with a larger pipe and headder, you won't get anything out of it.
But First spend the $5 of a foot of vacuum hose and replace them all...It will rule that out and it's really cheap and easy!
grand_sea is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2010, 05:57 AM   #9 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,230
Gallery: 0
Baratacus is on a distinguished road
Default

yeah that first!

A lot of people think their carb is junked... then find out the hoses were just old and leaky.... Your carb may be scrap, but rule out the easy stuff first and make sure. When the stock carb is functioning, it's a really good carb and extremely reliable.
Baratacus is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site > Suzuki Models > Suzuki Jimny, Sierra & Samurai Forum

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.