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Old 01-19-2010, 11:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My newly purchased 86 Samurai was leaking a lot of oil. It looked like it was coming from around the oil pan. I bought an oil pan gasket (cork material) and installed that. It still leaks quite a bit. It seems to be coming from around the right side of the oil pan. It is not coming from the oil filter.

I noticed in the FSM that normally there is not a gasket, but you apply a sealer when assembling the oil pan.

I am going to remove the oil pan and take off the timing belt cover to check if oil is not coming from the oil seal.

My question is, should I not use a gasket next time I put it together, and instead use some type of gasket sealant material? If so, what sealant should I use? FSM says to use "silicon type" sealant.
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I only changed one once, but didn't have any problems. The only reason I changed it in the first place was the engine was out and I was doing it 'just because'. It didn't leak before and it didn't leak after. I thought it was rubber, but it was a long time ago... may have been cork. I only use silicon sealant on the corners of things to hold it until I can get in up in position, but in my case I had it out and on a stand.
I'm almost sure I used a OEM set. If getting aftermarket, don't get the cheapest - get the best. Take you time and tighten them gradually. Check the book for how tight. Don't over tighten or you _will_ bend the pan.
Clean everything before you start, then run it. That way you can see the source. Once you can tell, then clean it again. (I hate working on oily stuff.)
A can of engine gunk and I trip to the car wash makes things nice to work on.
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This is a fairly common problem on the Suzuki G series engines.

Make sure that the "lip" of the pan is undistorted - it tends to twist at the bolt holes - place it face down on a flat surface and use some sort of a rectangular punch and gently tap it back into shape and it should seal.
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Also make sure it is the pan seal that is leaking and not the oil pump out in front, or the main seal leaking down throughthe front of the plastic timing belt cover.
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One small thing to watch for on an oil pan gasket is the inside lip. If it overhangs inside the block much oil returning to the pan running down the side of the block will catch an puddle on top of it. Eventually finding a way out. Use a single edge razor blade or exacto knife to trim the inside to just clear.
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