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Old 01-16-2010, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Interesting Front Skidplate Design. Anyone have any thoughts?

I would like to find a front skid plate that covers the area from beneath the front bumper and extends only to the front axle. Given my particular use and the area I will be in, I cannot use the more common, larger underbody skid plates.

I haven't found anything domestically, but did find this one. The price is high and shipping will be $$ but it looks like what I need. Anyone know of a domestic source???

Any and all thoughts appreciated.

Here it is:

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Here is the translation from Google:

This fantastic slide duralumin will allow you to address the real off-road without risking bending the bar or wrench the steering damper from their supports, in addition to offering a truly captivating design front.
NB: This slide paratiranteria mounts easily on the original Suzuki SJ 410-413-Samurai 1000-1300 Spanish, Japanese and Canadians.
Monta well even on the Suzuki SJ 410-413-Samurai 1000-1300 Spanish, Japanese and Canadians with installed kit Zanfi.it 2.5 "parabolic semicircle.
Absolutely not mount with systems Shacle Reverse, and with over 2.5 Zanfi.it Kit ", there will be interference from the high excursion from these dates Kit
With the kit offered by other companies will have fewer problems, but the interference that you will not know.
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Mounts easily in minutes.

Price includes the complete kit that includes:

- The sleigh.
- Support in iron powder coated.
- All hardware necessary for correct fitting.


Here is the pdf for the installation:

http://www.zanfi.it/modules/catalog/...tiranteria.pdf

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are you kidding me? You're going to pay for a 200 dollar plate of aluminum plus shipping from italy? It's just a piece of 1/8" aluminum alloy with a hole cut in it for the tow hook. You could probably take that PDF to a fabricator shop and show them the pictures... They could bend you a piece from their scrap bin that would fit in about 5 minutes using nothing but a hand brake. You could probably bend it yourself with a bench vise and some 2x4s. The brackets and hardware you can get from Home Depot. The whole project should cost you less than 30 bucks.
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Default SJ413 (Samurai) skidplates

I have seen several skidplate systems for the Suzuki IFS trucks (Sidekick/Tracker/Vitara) but nothing for the SJ front suspension.

Because of all the moving parts that cross the entire front end, most folks do not try to protect it with a skidplate. The alternative solution is to install a high steering kit (often referred to as an OTT steering system) which moves the tierod and the draglink above the centerline of the axle. OTT systems also eliminate bumpsteer on SPring Over Axle (SPOA) suspension lifts.

This is followed by installing differential armor like ZOR's Crabs:



More information on crabs can be found at:
ZOR Zuks Off Road

Crabs came to mind first because Myron turns out a great product with support before and after the sale. There are other differential armor products available at most aftermarket Suzuki Samurai Vendors...

I have a SPOA suspension with an OTT system on my '88 Samurai. No differential armor, though...

I hope this helps!
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are you kidding me? You're going to pay for a 200 dollar plate of aluminum plus shipping from italy? It's just a piece of 1/8" aluminum alloy with a hole cut in it for the tow hook. You could probably take that PDF to a fabricator shop and show them the pictures... They could bend you a piece from their scrap bin that would fit in about 5 minutes using nothing but a hand brake. You could probably bend it yourself with a bench vise and some 2x4s. The brackets and hardware you can get from Home Depot. The whole project should cost you less than 30 bucks.
+1 - wow.... that is crazy expensive for what you get. if something like that was popular I am surprised a us vendor doesn't already make it. No way could they sell it at that price though.
It kinda reminds me of the skid olate thingy a person sees on the little toyota prerunner trucks.
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are you kidding me? You're going to pay for a 200 dollar plate of aluminum plus shipping from italy? It's just a piece of 1/8" aluminum alloy with a hole cut in it for the tow hook. You could probably take that PDF to a fabricator shop and show them the pictures... They could bend you a piece from their scrap bin that would fit in about 5 minutes using nothing but a hand brake. You could probably bend it yourself with a bench vise and some 2x4s. The brackets and hardware you can get from Home Depot. The whole project should cost you less than 30 bucks.
I would say that's quite a bit thicker than 1/8" and it's also not just any ordinary aluminum alloy. Duralumin is a hardened aluminum alloy and it's unlikley that your local fabricator will have it in stock. I also seriously doubt that you'll be bending it with a bench vise and some 2x4s.
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I would say that's quite a bit thicker than 1/8" and it's also not just any ordinary aluminum alloy. Duralumin is a hardened aluminum alloy and it's unlikley that your local fabricator will have it in stock. I also seriously doubt that you'll be bending it with a bench vise and some 2x4s.

This was very helpful. So, we are back to my original question: Will this help? My issue is that during the Summer, in particular, I am often forced to drive through thick, high grasses which completely hide the numerous streep stumps in the area. Not infrequently, I discover the stump by hitting it head one. I want to do what I can to limit any damage that may result.

Ack's suggestion (which I greatly appreciate) of installing the crabs is one that I may do. I am wondering if this skidplate would help prevent or lessen damage from some of the stumps I do encounter. If it would help, then I am willing to pay the price for the skid plate--even if some of you think it is expensive. Lost days of work are far more costly to me that the one-time price of the part. I wonder if a couple of you have ever heard of a false economy???

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Will it help ? I'd say yes, but, I'm tempted to tell you to do like Baratacus suggested - take the PDF to a local metal shop and ask them if they can fab something similar for you and get a price quote.

It doesn't have to be duralumin - steel sheet can be used - although duralumin would have the advantages of being lighter and possibly stronger.

Steel is strong, but heavy; regular aluminum - in my opinion - tends to bend and because it is soft, if you were to hit a hard object, for example, a rock, you'll find that the rock ploughs a groove into the soft metal, duralumin is light, very stiff and very hard, and quite possibly ideal for a skidplate - if weight is a concern.

6mm (approximately 1/4") is the number I see most frequently when skidplates are being discussed, regardless of steel or aluminum
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Thank you, Fordem.

I appreciate your help and your willingness to share your expertise.

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I actually bothered to take a look at the pdf document - something that I neglected to do in the first place...

I see exactly what it does and how it might help you.

Such an arrangement would not do very well on an offroading vehicle where the operator can see the terrain in front of him/her.

I guess that's what I get for thinking "inside the box" - the box being the offroading viewpoint.

I am not familiar with duralumin but, from the pictures, it looks like it might do the job if it does not hit anything at a high speed.

Personally, I would use 1/4" steel. Sure it would weigh a lot but it would be stouter. Speed and performance is not your problem, it's the danged stumps that you can't see!
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I actually bothered to take a look at the pdf document - something that I neglected to do in the first place...

I see exactly what it does and how it might help you.

Such an arrangement would not do very well on an offroading vehicle where the operator can see the terrain in front of him/her.

I guess that's what I get for thinking "inside the box" - the box being the offroading viewpoint.

I am not familiar with duralumin but, from the pictures, it looks like it might do the job if it does not hit anything at a high speed.

Personally, I would use 1/4" steel. Sure it would weigh a lot but it would be stouter. Speed and performance is not your problem, it's the danged stumps that you can't see!
Exactly! I am going to look into this. I am also going to look into your idea of installing crabs.

In the past when I have hit a log or stump that was hidden in the tall grasses, I was travelling between 5-10 MPH (and usually closer to 5). I had no clue that it was there until---BAM!--I hit it. It is amazing to see how much damage a hidden stump or log can inflict.

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