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Old 01-15-2010, 06:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rumore: Suzuki to display full model change of Suzuki Jimny at Gene

in 2005,hirotaka ono a senior operating officer at Suzuki who inchart at International marketing was interview with some UK’s website that Suzuki will lauch full model change of Suzuki Jimny Suv in 2009. until now
the plan to produce the new Jimny was deley.

in mid 2009 there are talk about full model change of Suzuki Jimny
from indian’ media. some said that Suzuki is pin India as export base for new Jimny and many talent Indian engineer are in Japan to support Suzuki japan to develope the car just like they did in 2005 Suzuki Swift (codename Yn2)

Suzuki is in no hurry about this SUV since only the concept is maybe ready in next few month at 2010 Auto Expo or Geneva motorshow and it may be ready for launch globally by 2012.

Source: http://autoten.com/2009/12/29/rumore...eva-motorshow/
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting.

I would think that Suzuki is missing a bet by not re-introducing a Samurai into the US--using the latest mechanicals but hewing closely to the original Samurai styling. Personally, I think the original Samurai is better looking than any of the models that followed it.

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Interesting.

I would think that Suzuki is missing a bet by not re-introducing a Samurai into the US--using the latest mechanicals but hewing closely to the original Samurai styling. Personally, I think the original Samurai is better looking than any of the models that followed it.

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Arrr Mr Bruce, do you remember in the mid 90's the story of Suzuki been Sued due to the Samurai's rolling? and something about a magazine doing a rollover test with them all laughing about it?

If not, do a search. But I would say this is why you guy's in the US can't have fun toys because you just can't be trusted.

the Samurai's (Sierra's), Jimnys roll just as easy/hard (how ever you look at it) in Oz and many other parts of the world, but I guess the rest of the world didn't piss Mr Suzuki off Like you guys did. about there rollovers.

I can send you some picks of my Lifted Jimny If that is of any help?
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Arrr Mr Bruce, do you remember in the mid 90's the story of Suzuki been Sued due to the Samurai's rolling? and something about a magazine doing a rollover test with them all laughing about it?

If not, do a search. But I would say this is why you guy's in the US can't have fun toys because you just can't be trusted.

the Samurai's (Sierra's), Jimnys roll just as easy/hard (how ever you look at it) in Oz and many other parts of the world, but I guess the rest of the world didn't piss Mr Suzuki off Like you guys did. about there rollovers.

I can send you some picks of my Lifted Jimny If that is of any help?
actually, it was Suzuki who sued consumer reports for falsifying their tests results of the vehicle. That whole conspiracy had much to do with the samurai being a $5000 4x4 and the rest of the U.S. autoindustry would be destroyed trying to compete with those prices, so they did a smear campaign against the little rig. The Suzuki actually did BETTER in the rollover tests than the Jeep and the Landcruiser.

Currently, the SJ does not conform to the U.S. safety standards. Most budget Foreign vehicles don't. Importing them to the U.S. requires all kinds of mechanical and structural upgrades that increase the weight and reduce the preformance of the vehicle... and jacks the price up $10,000 or more. Suzuki didn't keep the SJ out of our market out of spite, they still sell the sidekick and vitara... they Just can't economically sell the SJ here. No one is going to spend $15,000 on a 1.3L 4cyl samurai when they can get a 3.8L V6 Wrangler for $20,000. If they could hit the $10K mark on the suzuki, then they would be golden. Everyone would buy one. But that's just not possible with all our restrictions and limitations.

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so you think its a price thing? well maybe in 1989 you could buy a suzuki sierra for 5 grand they were aroun the 7grand mark in Oz back than too.
But today a Suzuki Jimny in Oz we are happily paying $21000 and that is a cheap fun 4be. that means in the US it'll be somewhere around $19300?? the Jimny with its airbags holds up pretty good in a crash for what it is. and I can't see mum and dad with the 4 kids deciding to buy a little 2 door zook over a larger 4wd just cause its cheap. Jimnys arn't even in the top 20 in oz but are still sold.
you could buy a shitty beaten up one for 10 grand if you like but hey 20 grand really in this day and age is not alot for a real 4wd.

any other reasons?
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going off topic of your current discussion... as awesome as it would be for them to re release the samurai, i dont think they should. the samurai has left a legacy as one of the most reliable, yet cheap and economical 4x4's that, even in stock form, is still relatively competent off road. why risk screwing that up?...

just chipping in my 2 cents worth... interesting to see other peoples opinions on that matter...
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I can't help but believe that Suzuki couldn't offer a US spec Sammy for $15k or so. That would undercut the base, stipped Wrangler by at least 5k. The Sammy would be smaller, lighter, more maneuverable, and get better gas mileage than the base Wrangler. In stock form, it would be better off-road than the stock base Wrangler. Also, their are legions of people out there who would never buy a new Chrysler product based on their prior experiences with them (I am one).

If Suzuki went back to the original Sammy styling (for that boxy, tough-looking, retro look), I think they'd have a winner. Even people looking for economy cars, crave something different that the boring econoboxes currently offered. Also, the aftermarket industry is 1000X bigger and better than it was earlier.

I'd say it would be a relatively low investment, high upside bet.

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I think that a new Jimny is overdue, the old Jimny is now getting on for 12 years old, over here it was quite a good seller but I see very few new ones around and they look the same as they did 8 years ago.
I hope that Suzuki will stay with a proper off roader and not go the soft roader route. maybe it will include some of the features of the X-Head concept car

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Arrr Mr Bruce, do you remember in the mid 90's the story of Suzuki been Sued due to the Samurai's rolling? and something about a magazine doing a rollover test with them all laughing about it?

If not, do a search. But I would say this is why you guy's in the US can't have fun toys because you just can't be trusted.

the Samurai's (Sierra's), Jimnys roll just as easy/hard (how ever you look at it) in Oz and many other parts of the world, but I guess the rest of the world didn't piss Mr Suzuki off Like you guys did. about there rollovers.

I can send you some picks of my Lifted Jimny If that is of any help?
Do you know how they tested the samurai's? They conected an electric motor to the steering wheel and when they got the truck to somthing like
50km/h they cranked the wheel fully in one direction, then immediatly cranked it fully in the other direction! I cant imagin any vehicle that could take that!
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Do you know how they tested the samurai's? They conected an electric motor to the steering wheel and when they got the truck to somthing like 50km/h they cranked the wheel fully in one direction, then immediatly cranked it fully in the other direction! I cant imagin any vehicle that could take that!
BS... The test were done by professional drivers. One of which even testified for Suzuki during the court case. No 'electric motors turning the wheel'.
Please do a little research before spouting stuff like this. Do a search on U-Tube and I bet you can find the original videos of the drivers taking the zook through the course. I won't believe a word put out by the Consumers Union (Consumer Reports) ever since because of the way they handled the testing.

Also, to another comment from above -

{quote}I can't help but believe that Suzuki couldn't offer a US spec Sammy for $15k or so. That would undercut the base, stipped Wrangler by at least 5k.{unquote}

This was another another unsubstantiated rumor that was supposed to explain why the testing was handled the way it was. Though it was never proven, this was a little easier to believe. Imagine what would have happened to Jeep if a little Sammy showed it up in the press?
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