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Old 01-24-2015, 05:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry if I am posting this in the wrong spot. I have a kit car made from an 87 Samurai and I want to swap the 1.3 for a 1.6. I have read some other posts and have an idea of what needs to be done. I have the complete 1.6 8V from a 93 Geo Tracker (–ECM). I would like to keep the TBI but am not sure of how to add the VSS to the Samurai gauge cluster? If I leave this off will it keep setting a code???

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Old 01-25-2015, 02:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can fit the VSS from a Track/Kick or even make your own, se the guide here:

auszookers.com ? View topic - DIY VSS - thanks JrZook!!!
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Wow! That is exactly what I am looking for! Thanks! Now I just have to try and find a good ECM for 93 Tracker M/T.
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Sorry I have another question. The kit car I have has a PTO that comes off the back of the transfer case that I use with the transfer case in neutral. Since the Speedo cable comes off the output shafts will this set a code 24 when I use the PTO?? If so is there a way to trick the ECU into thinking a M/T is in park or could I make a small oscillator witch keeps pulling the VSS line low during PTO operation?

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Default code 24...

What is a "code 24"?

From my guessing as to what you have, I don't think you will have any drivability problems.

There is really not much electrical going on in a stock '87 Samurai around the transmission. The 5th gear switch provides feedback to the ECU/carburetor. Samurais have been know to operate with slightly less fuel economy without this switch working properly. Naturally, a 1.6 swap may delete the use of this switch. The other circuit is the reverse switch - which turns on the reverse lights on the rear bumper.

Is this a Dutton amphibian that you are trying to restore??
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I am swapping my 1.3 for a 1.6 TBI so the old ECU for the 87 Samurai is not used. I just picked up the new ECU for a 91-93 Tracker M/T. If I am using the PTO (power take off) from the transfer case to drive the propeller (It is a Dutton Surf I just built last winter) will this set a code 24 (lost speed sensor) in the ECU? I don’t want to keep clearing the ECU every time I go for a boat ride. I may have to design a circuit using a hull effect transistor or an optic encoder on the prop shaft??
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You won't have a problem with the VSS if you have it fitted in the speedo, the speedo cable is from the back of the gearbox which will still be rotating.
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The PTO comes off the back of the transfer case opposite to where the input shaft comes in. There is a square flange there on the factory case that is normally blocked off but on mine the input shaft goes straight through into a second clutch. When I am moving in the water the transfer case is in N and the wheels are not turning. The speedo cable comes off the drive shaft side and not where the PTO is.

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I have been searching the internet for two years asking questions about the Dutton Surf. I came accross this post and if you have the time I have a whole list of questions.
1. Did you build from the kit and used a local Samuri donor?
2. How was the experiance with dealing with Dutton as far as customer support?
3. Have you tried to register the car/boat with the DMV? This is my biggest concern here in California that the DMV will demand a ridiculus amount of safety testing or paperwork.
4. Same question except registering it as a boat.
5. Or did you register in as an Amphibious vehicle? if so what was the amount of papwerwork to register?
6. Does Dutton supply any paperwork to help get thru the registration process?
7. And if you got this far I then would move onto the acual technical aspects of the build.
I have the assembly manual and could ask questions and refernce the step numbers.
Thanks for any info
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Wow, that is too many questions to answer with my two-finger typing skills lol. I will answer the first 3
1 Yes
2 Good
3 Yes it is registered (Canada)
There is a short video of my car on you tube. Search "Dutton Surf Amphibious car". Sorry for the brief answers (I hate typing) but if you are really interested and donít mind a long-distance phone call, is there a way you can privet message me?
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