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Old 12-03-2014, 02:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all, my name is Justin, i am new to the 4x4 community, having just bought myself a Suzuki Samurai SJ70.

I am interesteed to find out, regarding the suspension upgrades, i read everyone uses the Jeep CJ/YJ spring set ups, but is it at all possible to use the springs from the Toyota Land Cruiser Troopy? They look beefier and larger. I understand it will not be a straight fit, as i will need the shackle kit, just interested if the Land Cruiser springs will be a suitable replacement,

I am in South Africa, and the parts for the samurai here are not so abundant as in most of the world. All the help would be very gratefull.

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Have you considered the difference in weight (both loaded & unloaded) between a Land Cruiser and a Samurai?
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I am unable to comment on fit but I might like to bring up the difference in weight between the two vehicles, if you straight swap them I suspect it might be a very stiff ride. When I replaced the Samurai springs with YJ springs I went to the stealership and bought 4 new leafs springs, they were 5 leaf packs so I opened up the packs and removed a spring from each to 4 leafs and in retrospect I could have removed another and been fine. It does ride a little stuff but much better than OEM. I just wanted enough spring there to support the added weight of winch/roll cage/bumpers etc.

I don't know about the Troopy but I'm guessing it has at least a 2000 lbs on the Samurai. Removing some leafs from the spring pack is something to consider if they do fit.
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I don't know about the Troopy but I'm guessing it has at least a 2000 lbs on the Samurai. Removing some leafs from the spring pack is something to consider if they do fit.
Let me put it this way - the Troopys have three bench seats, one in front for the driver and front seat passengers, and two more that run fore & aft behind the front one - the rear seat passengers face one another - fold those two rear seats up and I believe you can get the entire Sami in there.
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I googled a pic of one and admired it but there were no specs with it, very cool vehicle. I thought Jeeps were everywhere, YJ or CJs, I believe they are the same length for many years.

For fun I'll throw in a pic of my leafs when I brought it home and an after pic. The after pic is the front but I did this on all 4 corners.
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I googled a pic of one and admired it but there were no specs with it, very cool vehicle. I thought Jeeps were everywhere, YJ or CJs, I believe they are the same length for many years.

For fun I'll throw in a pic of my leafs when I brought it home and an after pic. The after pic is the front but I did this on all 4 corners.
Thanks for all the responses gents, the kits on lowrangeoffroad for example seem all for the YJ/CJ setups, dont see anything landcruiser based, except for the 4Runners etc, so unsure if this will be a good idea to follow.

Casey, what leafs are yours in that pic? CJ/YJ?
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They are YJ with the kits and missing links front and rear.
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Great thanks for that. Will make a note. Really want a good suspension set up.
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I'm delighted with mine, I have yet to hear any real negatives with the Jeep setup, if mine were a dedicated trail rig I would pull out another leaf from the front and two from the rear to make it flex better but as it is now it has more capability than I have balls haha.

Are Jeep parts not available where you are? Around here more people have Jeeps than cell phones. If you have a local wrecking yard it might be a good idea to grab a tape measure and start checking light trucks and some cars for spring width and length to discover some potential doner vehicles. IMHO the Samurai is one of these vehicles where stepping outside the box is OK. I went with the same ol' stuff that's been done by lots of others, tried and true but would not be afraid to Frankenstein it up in the absence of the commonly tried swaps.
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Hi again Casey.
To be honest. Not a lot of choice here. And the older jeeps are hard to come by, and when you do. Parts are very expensive.

I saw you say to take a tape measure along, now I can't obviously fit any leaf spring, but as long as length and width are same I assume they would fit to the YJ/CJ suspension kits that LROR sells? Or would I be assuming wrong...

Keeping in mind I know nothing about leaf springs and off road vehicles I have alot to wrap my head around and learn.
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