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Old 08-07-2019, 03:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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To add my 5 pence worth - the sound I get is like you hear when someone is whacking you on the head near the ear with a long toilet roll centre like you get when you have used all of your Xmas wrapping paper.
thats helmholtz resonance to a "T" crack another window (preferably a rear one) and it disappears

its painful and annoying
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thats helmholtz resonance to a "T" crack another window (preferably a rear one) and it disappears

its painful and annoying
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It is opening a rear window that causes it.

My Pajero has wind deflectors and I don't get any of this trouble.

The Swift is brilliant as it doesn't happen at any speed with the window even wide open.
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No - you open a rear window slightly (say 1/4) - and then you can open the front window as much as you like. But then front window does have to be open too.

It's affected all cars I've owned though admittedly I've never had wind deflectors...
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A big reason in my case why I didn't consider a Suzuki Swift - apart from being a bit "ordinary" - is its sky high insurance groups.

I was surprised that the Ignis was Group 17 considering it was replacing a top-of-the-range Qashqai Tekna on Group 15.

But the Suzuki Swift even in its basic SZ3 form is Group 22, the SZ5 is Group 23 or 27 depending on engine and the Sport is Group 35. How can they be so high?
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No - you open a rear window slightly (say 1/4) - and then you can open the front window as much as you like. But then front window does have to be open too.

It's affected all cars I've owned though admittedly I've never had wind deflectors...
In the Celerio any setting of openness at the rear window with any combination of openness on the front did it. The Ignis is not so bad but that still applies while the Swift had none of it.
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I was surprised that the Ignis was Group 17 considering it was replacing a top-of-the-range Qashqai Tekna on Group 15.
Groups lose me; I never understand the real terms meaning.........is the Ignis more than the Swift then? I got my quotes for my Iggy insurance (I checked the "a Spokesman Said" and the usual suspects like the Meerkat) slightly (a few quid) less than the Celerio but I paid through the nose for swapping. I should have ended the current insurance and gone for new but it was just a bit counter productive to do that.
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Well 1 is cheap and 50 is expensive...

How are car insurance groups decided?

Insurance grouping is decided by the group rating panel, made up of members of the Association of British Insurers and the Lloyds Market Association) and supported by Thatcham Research. The panel decides which insurance group new car models fall into based on the following factors:

New car values: The price of a new car and its specifications are a guide to potential replacement and repair costs
Damage and parts costs: The likely extent of damage to each model and the price of the parts involved also indicate repair costs, and lower costs usually mean a lower group rating
Parts prices: A list of 23 common parts is used to compare one manufacturer’s parts costs to another
Repair times: Long repair times mean higher costs and a higher group rating. According to Thatcham Research, over half of all money paid out in motor insurance claims goes on repairing cars – so the cost of spare parts and repair times are major factors in pricing motor insurance
Performance: High-performance cars are at higher risk of frequent insurance claims, so acceleration and top speed are taken into account
Safety: Vehicles fitted with AEB (autonomous emergency braking) systems are more likely to avoid low-speed front-to-rear accidents and could make for a lower insurance group rating
Bumper compatibility: The alignment and structure of bumpers is a factor
Car security: Cars with security features, such as alarm or immobilisation systems and high-security door locks, could enjoy a lower insurance group. But if you lose a key or fob it will be more expensive to replace.
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Well 1 is cheap and 50 is expensive...
Yeah but there seems no rhyme nor reason to it all.
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experimenting with partially winding up driver window with backs open helps
Yes and it worked.
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Wife's just renewed her Ignis insurance. She was with admiral and had a "for information only" type thing she had to declare. Wasn't even a claim for any money whatsoever. When her renewal came it quoted almost £500. Lol.

Shopped around and Churchill came in at sub £300

I only pay £300 for my modified Octavia vRS. Admittedly it's a 2010 car. But I declared all mods, extra power, everything. I can't understand how a little "city car" like an Ignis can be quoted so highly tbh. I guess costs of parts may be higher due to Japan being at the other side of the world. But is the risk of an incident with the demographic who probably drive an Ignis compared to a "hot hatch" justifying a higher insurance cost. I also understand that the Ignis is worth more than my Octavia. But it still seems steep.
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