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Old 01-23-2019, 04:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Crabbing of front tyres 2017 Ignis

In low speed, tight lock situations - the front wheels of my Ignis stutter or crab. When reversing on lock out of a tight parking space, for example, it's as if you've run over something and the car moves momentarily to one side. It's very disconcerting. Googling indicates that it's quite a significant problem on some cars and it's aggravated by cold weather (stiffens the tyre walls) and gets worse as tyres wear. Mercedes have solved the problem on some models by fitting all season tyres free of charge. Anyone suffer from this on their Ignis?
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I've not noticed it - however my drive is gravel so that might ameliorate it. I'll make a point in checking next time on tarmac.

My car has the standard tyres fitted and is 2wd.
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Default Ours does it too.

Yes our 2016 SZT has it. Dealer looked at it and could not find any fault.
This was before I found out about tyres causing this. Must admit it has got a lot worse here since the cold weather has arrived in the UK.

Will look in the morning what tyres are on the car. What tyres are on yours.

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my 2015 GV does this with cold 8 ply sidewall tyres too. I ignore it. the 2013 is on softer tyres and doesn't do it.
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I'm glad I'm not the only person to have this issue. I've had the car around 2 weeks and only notice it when on full or nearly full lock. Just feels like the tyres are rubbing something underneath or the feel you get when a car understeers. I have the car booked into be looked at on Wednesday so will see what they say.
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Tyres are Bridgestone Ecopia - ridiculously expensive tyres at around 115 each fitted. Although no sign of undue wear - twisting and releasing of the tyre on full lock can't be good. The issue is the steering feel and the knock when manoeuvring on lock - my wife keeps thinking that she's hit or run over something and is now nervous about driving at speed "because there's a steering fault". The problem is worse in cold weather and when the tyres are cold. Additionally I think that the problem is getting worse as the tyre treads are wearing.
I'll take it to Suzuki at some point but I'm sure they'll say that the steering / suspension has been checked and is OK.

If I keep the car, I'll fit Falken AS200 all season tyres when required (around 60 fitted). It seems that the softer wall of an all season tyre is a common answer to the issue on other cars.

I'm also going to write to Suzuki and it would be good to report that mine isn't an isolated case.
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We've just collected our car. The dealer said they can find no issues and there is no evidence of rubbing or excessive wear. They also said this is a known issue and has been raised with Suzuki Technical, awaiting feedback. It almost seems like they should restrict the steering lock slightly.... watch this space
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I've written to Suzuki so will be interested in their response - I'll report back in due course. Mine has got worse as the tyres have worn. Certainly on my car, you'd need to restrict the lock quite considerably in order to prevent the issue. My wife finds it very unnerving - she keeps thinking she's run over or clipped something.
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I've written to Suzuki so will be interested in their response - I'll report back in due course. Mine has got worse as the tyres have worn. Certainly on my car, you'd need to restrict the lock quite considerably in order to prevent the issue. My wife finds it very unnerving - she keeps thinking she's run over or clipped something.
what happens if you add 5 psi to the tyres?
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It seems the old Ignis 4Grip problem (cheap and nasty AWD) has been retained and carried over to the new generation Ignis??????????

It all good to have a race and rally system where tyres and gravel are at no expense spared levels for the WRC, but seriously, this system is not really practical for everyday tarmac driving.

I could be wrong.

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