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Old 07-08-2009, 08:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Noticed my baby was warming up a little rough yesterday--went out this morning and started her after about 50 yards I realized the oil light was on and as I stopped to pull into a space to investigate my engine rattled to a halt and now all I got is a whizzzzzzzz and no engine engagement when I try to turn my key. If I have a dead or locked up engine--does the Powertrain warranty cover such a failure? I owe 13 more payments on her and I hate to send her to push pull or drag trade in hell.

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I hope your timing belt didn't break. Other than that I don't know.
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if it something major like that i would ASSUME that they would cover it under warranty if its still in affect. BUT they might try to put the blame on you and say that YOU didn't "maintain" the vehicle and will make you pay for it. So its really a matter if you dealerships mechanics are stupid and rude or not. I have a regular custom at my shop that had an 04 forenza and he literally had parts falling off his car due to mechanics not doing their jobs right and the dealership tried to put the blame on him.
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How many miles do you have on it out of curiosity.
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The drivetrain warrenty is 7years/100000mile. If it is part of the mechanical parts its covered. PCM/catalytic converter is 8years/ 80000miles. most gaskets and seals are covered. If the timing belt broke it could have been to the waterpump, did you have the recall done? Either way if the belt went (either due to waterpump or a worn out tensioner) the head will have to be replaced and is covered if vehicle is still within the 7/100000.
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[QUOTE=SteveJD;176050]...I realized the oil light was on and as I stopped to pull into a space to investigate my engine rattled to a halt and now all I got is a whizzzzzzzz and no engine engagement when I try to turn my key.../QUOTE]
how much oil is in the engine right now? when was your last oil change? If your description is suggesting that the oil ran out, the warranty becomes dependent on WHY the oil pressure dropped. Was the filter or drainplug loose? then the people who changed the oil last should cover it. Has it been 20,000 miles since you've changed your oil? Then you're going to be the one with the bill.
If the timing belt lost time due to most likely the water pump, as supposed above, powertrain warranty would cover it.
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From my mechanics buddy's opinion it sounds like the belt went. I had no oil light before that morning, no overheating, no warning it all. The car died and went kerplunk when i slowed to a stop. The starter still whizzes and I don't get the engine lock up KTHUNK when I try to turn her over. She gets towed in tomorrow to find out.

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How many miles do you have on it out of curiosity.
56 thousand miles.
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The drivetrain warrenty is 7years/100000mile. If it is part of the mechanical parts its covered. PCM/catalytic converter is 8years/ 80000miles. most gaskets and seals are covered. If the timing belt broke it could have been to the waterpump, did you have the recall done? Either way if the belt went (either due to waterpump or a worn out tensioner) the head will have to be replaced and is covered if vehicle is still within the 7/100000.

Whoa. Recall?
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Whoa. Recall?
there was a recall regarding the water pump. The pulley has a flange on both sides of it to keep the belt centered: one is machined into the pulley, the other is a circle of stamped steel spot-welded onto the back of the pulley. When the belt rides against the welded flange, it can break free, sometimes interfereing with the belt and throwing the timing off (sometimes catastrophically). The recall involves checking to see if the belt is riding on the welded flange. If it is, the water pump is replaced with an updated style (don't get me started about that) along with a new belt. If the belt is in the center of the pulley, you do nothing and button the car back up.
This recall applies to some 2004-2005MY Forenza/Renos, but not all...you'd have to have a dealership see if your car was included. If not, the repair would still fall under powertrain warranty as long as the water pump or its pulley was to blame. As I said above, your call may have gotten the recall performed (inspection only) and still fail later, so pretty much ignore the recall altogether...you can use it to help your case for warranty repairs, but whether or not your car got it performed doesn't really change anything in the end from your car's point of view.
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