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Old 08-21-2007, 02:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Decided to write this up regarding the uniqueness of the 2007 Reno vs. the Forenza models. Somewhat Reno-centric standpoint. Thought some of you might enjoy. It's interesting to see just what options have made it to 2007 for both cars (+ wagon) and which have been decontented. -Ming

Suzuki Reno Review - Reno vs. Forenza - Which Car Suits Your Style?

How Does the Reno stack up against the Forenza and other Hatchbacks?

August 19, 2007

If you've been checking out the Reno you've probably noticed its similarity to its stablemate the Forenza, especially if you've compared interior photos. This is because the Reno and Forenza are essentially the same car, with one sporting a hatchback and one with a traditional sedan trunk (and of course there's the wagon version as well). But if you look beyond the simple differences, you'll find that both cars offer their own appeal, and that appeal is in the details.

As a bit of background, both are built by GM Daewoo in Korea, a subsidiary of General Motors. Suzuki and GM have long had a history of sharing cars (such as the Chevy/Geo Tracker and Metro), and GM Daewoo has even had its share of Suzuki cooperation dating back to the 1980's. In some other markets, the "Reno" and "Forenza" share the same nameplate, such as in Australia where all 3 variants, wagon, hatch and sedan are badged as the Holden "Viva".

As of this writing, Summer of 2007, the Suzuki website still has not listed the details on the 2008 Reno and Forenza models, so the options and pricing I list below are all for the 2007 models.

At first you might notice that the Reno is only $400 cheaper than the Forenza Sedan, which is a slightly larger vehicle (by about 8 inches in length). The Reno pricing starts at $13,599 while the Forenza starts at $13,999.

A few things must be considered however when comparing the Reno to the Forenza. The Reno is not simply a Forenza hatchback with a different face. In addition to the more aerodynamic-looking front end, the basic Reno has fancier projector-style headlamps and a darker interior color scheme than the Forenza with modern-looking charcoal seat and door fabric that looks more targeted to the youth market than the Forenza with its more conservative-looking gray. In some small way the slightly shorter Reno might be seen as more sporty and "tossable", so this fits with the image of one as a family sedan and the other as a hatch for younger people.

Mechanically both cars are pretty much the same with the same engine, transmission and even wheelbase, sharing almost all of the same interior dimensions. This allows the Reno to shine a bit as a hatchback or "5-door" if you prefer, since most 5-doors do not have the kind of roomy rear seat that the Reno shares with its sedan and wagon siblings. The Suzuki SX4 hatchback, for instance, has less room in the rear seat area than the new SX4 "Sport" Sedan.

On the other hand, most hatchbacks the size of the Suzuki Reno (on the outside, at least) do tend to get better fuel economy. If you're expecting a fuel-sipping 5-door, you might be disappointed. At 23/30 MPG with the 2007 model EPA ratings (the old system), the fuel economy is on the low end of average for a hatch in its price range. The rather torquey engine in the Reno seems more suited to a vehicle like the Forenza Wagon in my own garage. The typical sporty 5-door hatchback in the Reno's price range will offer a more free-revving, economical, if less torquey engine. The Reno offers a lot of bang for your buck, however, so you might consider the slight handicap in fuel economy area to be offset by all of the standard features you get in the car and the aforementioned good interior space

Review Continued: SUZUKIPHILE - Suzuki Reno Review - Reno vs. Forenza - Which Car Suits Your Style?


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!!! I think I might look into doing a reno interior. Hmm...
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!!! I think I might look into doing a reno interior. Hmm...
First thing I wished when I saw the 2007 Reno interior was that I could get that in my Wagon. Unfortunately its a Reno-only deal, like the Leather and the steering wheel mounted audio controls. (My wagon has a sad little insert hidden behind the steering wheel where the audio controls would mount - I'm sure I also lack the wiring or I'd just go buy that and snap it in)

But I wonder if the fabric for the door panels and seat covers could be ordered - hmmmm.....
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First thing I wished when I saw the 2007 Reno interior was that I could get that in my Wagon. Unfortunately its a Reno-only deal, like the Leather and the steering wheel mounted audio controls. (My wagon has a sad little insert hidden behind the steering wheel where the audio controls would mount - I'm sure I also lack the wiring or I'd just go buy that and snap it in)

But I wonder if the fabric for the door panels and seat covers could be ordered - hmmmm.....
Wow I didn't know you couldn't get the audio controls.

I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard. I'd play around with your car a bit and look at fuses, compare radios, ect...then pick up the parts you should need from a junked reno/forenza if you can find one. Actually come to think of it I wouldn't mind giving you mine if you pay shipping and sent me your insert thingy. Depending on how hard it is to get the wiring and everything I wouldn't want anything cept those inserts for it.

I doubt you can buy the fabric, but the door panels shouldn't be that much. I tried calling the dealer but they're on a lunch break right now. lol
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Kinky that would be awesome -- don't you use those controls tho?

I'll pop it open sometime soon, how cool would it be if it was pre-wired just cause its cheaper....nah, probably not pre-wired.

I have this paranoia about taking panels off in my interior and that when I put them back I'll have 100 squeaks and rattles. Do you use any kind of insulation or sound deadener in your panels?
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Kinky that would be awesome -- don't you use those controls tho?

I'll pop it open sometime soon, how cool would it be if it was pre-wired just cause its cheaper....nah, probably not pre-wired.

I have this paranoia about taking panels off in my interior and that when I put them back I'll have 100 squeaks and rattles. Do you use any kind of insulation or sound deadener in your panels?
No I don't use them. Never had them hooked up (aftermarket radio) and I dont like them in other cars that have them.

No I dont. I don't think taking things off and putting them back will usually cause any more noise. I have this paranoia about taking them off too, except it's because I know I'll break nearly all this clips cuz I always do. lol
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All other Hatchbacks in the Reno's price range = CRAP. Way too small and wimpy, if anything. An slight upgrade from the Reno to the Mazda 3-5 will cost you $7-8K more, which is rediculous.

As far as versatility goes, sedans have nothing on hatchbacks whatsoever. I've moved twice in my Reno and at one point loaded 5 bookcases, a table set, and an entertainment center from floor to roof with no problem.

The Reno had everything I was looking for, and 17K later it still does. It's only a tick out of alignment and the tires need balanced and rotated, but those are from me sloleming around turns and stupid drivers. Even the brakes are still good after riding behind slow fucks 24-7. Otherwise it has had no service (except oil changes) and runs like a top!

An automatic with selectable gears is a real plus saving the brakes and getting power from slow rolls and around turns. Plus the projector headlights are so good, I don't even need anything more than the DRL's plus fogs (which can be considered driving lights) pointed all the way up. I can see deer hanging out 20 feet into the woods on each side!

And with $3200 trade-in value for my money pit Ford Probe GT, it was a steal! Not to mention it is truly one of the last cars in that price range to have even remotely good looks.

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the mazda 3 is a POS. it corners like a watermelon on the end of a baseball bat. all the weight of the engine is way too far forward. i like the car, but i wouldn't buy one because i like my reno MUCH better. i test drove both on the same day and the reno was after the mazda. guess which one i liked more?
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