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Old 06-30-2006, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lets just put it here untill admin fixes the old link
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I've got a performance question:

As it stands now, about how much would it cost to get a forenza turbo'd? Also how long would it take and what mods *must* be done?
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Click my name to check my old post. I think a turbo is a bad idea. Alot of mods need to be made in my opinion for this to happen. I am making a Supercharger install kit for a Procharger Supercharger. It is a true bolt on. No oil line to tap easy to take care of, And your car will still drive very well. But before i do that i will first offer a Wilwood big break kit. I think you should be able to stop before you go. I will also be making a mold from the interior silver trim. The mold will be for Carbon Fiber. They will fit like the factory installed them, And will be made of 100% carbon fiber. Not that stick on crap you get from SWT. I see performance as more than just going fast in a str8 line, So all of my product will be to make this car an all around performer. Also Tokico
Coil Overs are in the works. The products will be sold under Gothic Motorsports, And manufactured by GRP "Gothic Racing Performance"
I would also like to work with BMS on a little bolt on that will give our cars 1.3g's in the skid pad. Thats what the math says anyway.
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As it stands now, about how much would it cost to get a forenza turbo'd? Also how long would it take and what mods *must* be done?
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turbo forenza.... not going to be easy unless you have the experience and knowledge to do the work yourself or know someone who does. There are no pre made kits that I know of, so its mostly going to have to be custom made. If you are doing it urself, then the timeline will depend on how much time you have to spend on it. As for a shop, kinda hard to say, depending on how busy they are....anywhere from 2 weeks - 2 months. Price..... count on $4000+ if you want quality and reliability. Supporting mods needed are probably a new stronger clutch and ARP connecting rod bolts as the factory ones snap (so I've heard).

edit: check out the Nitrous/Forced Induction forum on daewootech, lots of good information there. especially check out my threads about the turbo optra.

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I think a turbo is a bad idea. Alot of mods need to be made in my opinion for this to happen.
What? Supercharger is boosting the engine same as a turbo, so how would any less mods be needed? Granted it would be a much easier install if it was a bolt on kit. But you would still need the stronger clutch, con rod bolts, and some sort of engine/fuel management. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally in favor of aftermarket performance for this car and that would be awesome if you made a supercharger.
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You can run about 7 lbs of boost without upgrading th fuel system or rods and bolts. The clutch is weak, But if you dont drop it at 5000 rpm
it should last awhile. A turbo is alot of heat you WILL need an intercooler. And you still might overheat. A supercharger give you what you need when you need it, If your looking for 350 hp or 400 hp look for another car. I am also working on cam gears that will help with the boost, For every 100hp you add you should retard the timming by 1. So like i said this car can be an all around performer, But the driver needs to understand there is not 10 years of history to go back on like Honda.
200hp is a good mark for this car, Any more than that look to getting some internal work done first...Also it's not me making the supercharger, I am just making a way to install it to our cars. I picked Procharger because they are the best fit for us. No oil lines to deal with, no intercooler needed, And quiet.



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What? Supercharger is boosting the engine same as a turbo, so how would any less mods be needed? Granted it would be a much easier install if it was a bolt on kit. But you would still need the stronger clutch, con rod bolts, and some sort of engine/fuel management. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally in favor of aftermarket performance for this car and that would be awesome if you made a supercharger.
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You can run about 7 lbs of boost without upgrading th fuel system or rods and bolts.

Have you checked out that link to daewootech.com ? there are quite a few people on there who strongly reccommend changing out the rod bolts on the U20SED before adding ANY boost. Specifically Tom and Chris (gsiturbo16v and [email protected]) I would agree the clutch is kinda optional, depends how you drive. I'm currently in the middle of my turbo project for my optra (its taking forever).... its on there too.
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Yes i did see what they did to them, Kinda messy... But for what i want and for what i will build to be soldI will keep it modest. I think it's irresponsible for aftermarket manufactures to build and sell things that will just have you sitting on the side of the road. I am unsure of the short shifters, I tried to hold my shifter at a lower point and found that the arm rest was in the way. I think with some good thinking and me updating my CAD system i can come up with something than just cutting my stock one up. I am going to join the Daewoo site to try and find some more info on the history of oue engine. I was gonna do the turbo as well, but after my last Suzuki burning to the ground from heat I think i will stick with the supercharger. Also i am looking for some people in th Tampa Florida to help me on some things. LMK if you are in the area and would like to help.
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damn I would help you out for sure if I lived there.

yah look through that site, theres tons of good info there from people located accross the world.
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Tampa HA! I'm actually moving to Tampa at the end of July! Not sure what part though. I'll be heading out this weekend down there to check it out. we got a 4 day weekend because of the holidays and all.
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