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Old 06-02-2016, 12:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why are parts so high????
Every part I price for my Carry is 3x the price or more for the same part on a much larger engine or vehicle. It's just stupid. A starter cost $250 or more. I can buy a bigger starter for $70 easy.

I'm about fed up with this overpriced POS. No point in having something small and fuel efficient if the overpriced parts cost more than just buying gas for a larger inefficient vehicle.

Are they this expensive in Japan or Philippines, etc?
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Without having a clue as to where you are, it's hard to provide a meaningful answer.

In my personal experience, genuine Suzuki parts are no more expensive that genuine parts for any other brand of car, and depending on exactly where you are, aftermarket parts, which are generally less expensive, may not be readily available - that is the case in my corner of the world, and it's not an issue for me, because my preference is to use genuine parts.

For what it's worth, I'm a "long time" Suzuki owner, I currently have two, had two more, in total my family has owned ten, and there is only one reason for it, they are, on the whole, economical vehicles to own & operate, I can typically walk into my Suzuki dealer and walk back out with the part I need, for less than I would pay, for a similar part, at any other dealership, Mitsubishi parts are more expensive, Toyota parts are more expensive.

The last Mitsubishi timing belt I bought set me back USD$500, and that was the belt by itself, no tensioner or idler pulley, no cam or crank seals -in comparison, I picked up the entire timing kit for my Suzuki - two chains, two adjusters, three guides, seal & gasket for under $300 - all of then genuine manufacturer replacements.

Sure, I could have gone out and picked up a cheap Chinese replacement belt for around $40, but if that belt snaps, it becomes a VERY.EXPENSIVE.REPAIR, and that does not include the cost of retrieving the vehicle and getting it to the shop.

It's your money, it's your choice, and some of us do research part availability and cost before purchasing.
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A little research reveals you're in Panama City, Florida - I'm curious as to how you got a Carry into Florida, it's not a US market vehicle (and that's the reason you're having problems locating parts, and paying through the nose for them). I'm also not certain that you can even legally license that vehicle for road use.
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Old 06-03-2016, 07:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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There are several importers in the US, they are basically gas powered golf carts
and are not used on road, but off road, farm, and hunting. They do not pass safety standards. Canada seams to have them licensed. U can not get an automatic in to the US, and the gear shift has only 1, 2 gears I understand as they are only off road use. They weld a plate over the shift.
parts are cheap in RP, but shipping is expensive, even then, I think I could undercut the US supplies 75% and still make a profit for the rebuild kits.
Even here with parts all over, almost every block a store selling surplus, low cost parts, people are still unhappy because of the cost.
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There are several importers in the US, they are basically gas powered golf carts and are not used on road, but off road, farm, and hunting.
I hear what you're saying, but, there's a comparison in his initial post that suggests otherwise.

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No point in having something small and fuel efficient if the overpriced parts cost more than just buying gas for a larger inefficient vehicle.
It's just that in my mind, and I am quite familiar with the Carry, they were available here new, with the 1.0 & 1.3 litre engines, and the company I was with at the time had three, one pickup, one van (no side windows) and the third one, a bus (same as the van but with side windows), the Carry is not particularly suited for "off road, farm and hunting", for those purposes, I'd rather use something like a Yamaha Rhino. Where the Carry shines is as an "inner city" runabout, and I'm definitely not talking the sprawling cities of Florida here.
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My Carry is a 1992 model, chassis DD51T, engine F6A. It is a 5 speed 4x4, cold AC and hot heat. It was imported to the US in 2008 to Mississippi. The previous owner tagged and insured and used it all 8 years. I then bought it there and drove it for near 7 hours back to Panama City, Florida. It is a street legal vehicle in Florida as well. It can be titled and insured. I've see a couple others running around in Florida. A quick search shows you can buy any Kei truck off ebay for $2900 shipped from Japan to the US. And maybe it depends on what state you are in but you just get a title for them. No big deal. My Carry can maintain 55-60mph all day without issue.

Or it could. The starters crapped out. just annoying that it costs $250 and has to be shipped from overseas. I can rebuild a whole engine for that cost. I don't really care about getting genuine parts. But I do get name brand aftermarket parts. For instance I almost always buy a Gates brand timing belts. I guess I'm just used to dirt cheap vehicle parts. I'm looking at rebuilding the engine now.

Starter $250
Rebuild kit $380
Timing kit $165

I'm used to rebuilding a big V8 engine for less than that. Just seems crazy priced for an engine 6 times smaller, lol.

So anyone know the cheapest (or free) place to get a service manual for my truck? I'd prefer a digital copy.

Thanks for the replies.

My last vehicle was a Geo Tracker. which is a Suzuki Sidekick. Otherwise I haven't owned Suzuki. The Tracker has cheap parts though.

ALSO: I have finally taken the 2 minutes needed to fill in my "About Me" section.

After considering all my options for engines. parts. I'm fairly sure I'm just going to go with rebuilding it. I like the truck, it performs well for what I want.

If anyone here can get me better prices than the above mentioned price please let me know, May also be interested in a complete used engine for around that same cost.

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I left the US in 2004 and these were not there that i saw, so all my info came from the mini truck forum. If still right hand drive, would have been a great US Mail delivery van. It only has 1 thin layer of metal, and some insulation in front, how did they get around the safety requirement?
We seldom get above 50 foe very short distances here as it is a small island, Mactan Cebu, and traffic like I95, bumper to bumper at 25 KPH if U B lucky.
Yours has an ECM, so do not let anybody put a multi meter on the Distributor wiring. They shorted mine doing that. $$$$$$$$$$$$!

The F6 (660) is a surplus vehicle that the Japanese are phasing out, and people are there buying them up and reselling all over the world. We have at least 5000 sitting on car lots all over Cebu, and 10000 or more on the road, stretched, customized and such. It basically replaced the WWII Jeep.

What kit do you need?

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I don't know about the safety requirement. But the DMV titles it and insurance companies put insurance on it. I didn't ask questions, I just paid them fees. Right hand drive is pretty cool.

Yeah, from what I've been reading and figuring out the F6A is an outdated engine. So I should be able to find tons of used ones. But just not in the US. Mine has a lack of compression and smokes bluae (oil) the whole time it's running. So I was just going to go ahead and do a full rebuild. New crank and con rod bearings, new pistons and rings, new seals and gaskets, new water pump, and new timing belt. That should get it pretty solid and have no worries for a long time.

These are the links to what I'm looking to buy. The best prices I've found. They are from Rodriguez, Rizal, Philippines

Federal Mogul Engine Rebuild Kit Fits Suzuki Carry DB51T DD51T DB52T F6A | eBay

Heavy Duty Aisin Water Pump Timing Belt Set Fits Suzuki Carry DD51T DD51B F6A | eBay

I also need a starter too. I think $250-ish was about the best deal I found for a new one online. I may can get it rebuilt locally for $150 though.
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I left the US in 2004 and these were not there that i saw, so all my info came from the mini truck forum. If still right hand drive, would have been a great US Mail delivery van. It only has 1 thin layer of metal, and some insulation in front, how did they get around the safety requirement?
We seldom get above 50 foe very short distances here as it is a small island, Mactan Cebu, and traffic like I95, bumper to bumper at 25 KPH if U B lucky.
Yours has an ECM, so do not let anybody put a multi meter on the Distributor wiring. They shorted mine doing that. $$$$$$$$$$$$!

The F6 (660) is a surplus vehicle that the Japanese are phasing out, and people are there buying them up and reselling all over the world. We have at least 5000 sitting on car lots all over Cebu, and 10000 or more on the road, stretched, customized and such. It basically replaced the WWII Jeep.

What kit do you need?
Cars that are 25 years old or older can be imported into the US without passing any safety or emissions regulations. Also, I believe some states do allow newer minitrucks to be registered for road use.

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Well got my rebuild kit in. Still can't find a service/repair manual for this truck/engine though. Anyone direct me to the right place?
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