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Old 07-29-2015, 08:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default F6A engine swap options?

It is clear that I am going to have to replace the rings in this little fuel injected 3-cylinder 660cc since the compression is VERY low. While considering the prospect of possibly doing a complete overhaul and rebuild, I am wondering what engine swap alternatives there are for my Carry truck 4WD?
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Greetings! If it has a ECM box, every thing on the truck, motor, aircon, trany, temp gage, and so on are connected to it.
You would have to replace the motor / tranny and install what ever they used to control them.
Cheapest to rebuild or get something US made to play with.
We have 30 000 + Suzuki truck / vans in parts here, not counting rebuilds that are finished, and no one has done this from all who looked before about sub motors. The 1.0, and 1.3 motors that are here are in original body's as too much to replace.
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It is clear that I am going to have to replace the rings in this little fuel injected 3-cylinder 660cc since the compression is VERY low. While considering the prospect of possibly doing a complete overhaul and rebuild, I am wondering what engine swap alternatives there are for my Carry truck 4WD?


a complete rebuild just cost me under $500 USD (plus labor)

NEW
3 Pistons
piston rings
head gasket kit
bearings
clutch and plate also
machine shop heads
machine shop block
new piston liner/sleeves



I did much of the work and called in an expert to finish things up.

Local used engines were about the same price... but .. hey... $500 USED vs $500 rebuild... never know if a 2nd hand engine will need a rebuild also... so better to rebuild what you already know about IMHO...

note: the only motor I have seen that was easier to repair than this F6A 660cc was a VW engine... its very simple compared to modern day engines.. its all mechanics - no tricks or smoking mirrors... (non EFI simple version that I have)

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I recall there was a turbo version of the F6A, but what are the differences (if any) in those engines and the NA version? What was the size of the turbo and was it intercooled? Is there any comparison information?
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Greetings! I have a turbo, inter cooled, its for if you live near a hill and must go up it occasionally.
The motor is a 6 valve. when they went to a 12 valve, that is the same as the turbo.
I can from a start out run a BMW for about 1/8th mile. Mine is an automatic.
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a complete rebuild just cost me under $500 USD (plus labor)

NEW
3 Pistons
piston rings
head gasket kit
bearings
clutch and plate also
machine shop heads
machine shop block
new piston liner/sleeves



I did much of the work and called in an expert to finish things up.

Local used engines were about the same price... but .. hey... $500 USED vs $500 rebuild... never know if a 2nd hand engine will need a rebuild also... so better to rebuild what you already know about IMHO...

note: the only motor I have seen that was easier to repair than this F6A 660cc was a VW engine... its very simple compared to modern day engines.. its all mechanics - no tricks or smoking mirrors... (non EFI simple version that I have)
The cheapest rebuild kits for the F6A I found here in the U.S. were $950.


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Greetings! I have a turbo, inter cooled, its for if you live near a hill and must go up it occasionally.
The motor is a 6 valve. when they went to a 12 valve, that is the same as the turbo.
I can from a start out run a BMW for about 1/8th mile. Mine is an automatic.
So, you are saying that the 12-valve is the turbo engine?
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The cheapest rebuild kits for the F6A I found here in the U.S. were $950.


That complete rebuild gasket kit (includes head gasket) in the photo was purchased for a total price of about $25 USD.

piston rings (kit) were about $30 USD

new pistons are also about $25 USD (set of 3)

if its saving you THAT much cash. I have no problem with dropping a pack off with fedex / DHL

Just get shipping prices direct from fedex website... (manila to your city)
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Here is an example of what I am dealing with here in the U.S.:

suzuki f6a rebuild | eBay

Meanwhile, are you ex-pat or military? If you are military then shipping via USPS is the cheapest and also pretty fast.
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Meanwhile, are you ex-pat or military? If you are military then shipping via USPS is the cheapest and also pretty fast.
It would be nice if they did not kill off the APO/FPO mail services about half decade ago.. ACTIVE duty still has access to it thou.

USPS is great, however getting from HERE to the USPS can be tricky. I have had about 95% success using local post offices and "EMS" mail delivery (that goes direct to USPS and even PO BOXes).

However 100% success with Fedex, DHL and UPS.

That rebuild kit costing $1145 USD .. WOW !!!
Minus the water pump - its about one THOUSAND BUX CHEAPER here...

I would say that is an excellent candidate for a $70 FedEX box... if you are saving THAT much cash....


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A new water pump would be nice insurance to have after a rebuild. I am a little perplexed about the timing belt as I am pretty sure that I have a timing chain instead.

If we can work something out, then that would be great!!!
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