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Old 07-27-2006, 02:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hey guys, just found out this morning while driving that I'm having a hard time on my steering especially when turning left. I think na puwersa siguro when I was parking in a tight space in Sampaloc. I suspect since this van is from Japan and the original specs use was a R12 rim and tires that it was too much to handle a the tires and rim 175/60 R13. I think the steering arm nawala sa pwesto. My mechanic told me before to reinforce at may konting conversion sa steering box kasi medyo malambot yung ilalim. So I plan to bring it this weekend for repairs.

Add on ko lang, I've notice that may drip ng water sa ilalim ng makina since nag palit ako ng F6 na makina and i suspect baka dahil matagal na stock kaya bumigay sealing ng water pump ko. Medyo may konting ingay dun. My water pump is located inside the engine with a pulley daw sabi ng mekaniko ko. I've ask sa Suzuki Banawe, and the original kit for the water pump is P1,500 daw at original. (Sana hindi sya replacement) Sa Olympia in Araneta P850 daw pero replacement and Arco Japan ang brand.(Is this ok?)

Hopefully, maayos ko na mga major repairs ng van ko kahit paunti-unti. Ganun talaga pag 2nd hand but I still like my carry van.

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Old 07-27-2006, 11:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I've used the arco brand before and they seem to be ok.

you might also want to check the center post bushing on your van. it happened to me about 3 months ago, the center post bushing was binding on the centerpost, so it was hard to turn. my mechanic just put some grease between the bushing and the center post and told me that there's no need to clean the undercarriage with car shampoo and water twice a week.
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Old 07-28-2006, 03:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I've used the arco brand before and they seem to be ok.

you might also want to check the center post bushing on your van. it happened to me about 3 months ago, the center post bushing was binding on the centerpost, so it was hard to turn. my mechanic just put some grease between the bushing and the center post and told me that there's no need to clean the undercarriage with car shampoo and water twice a week.
Did your mechanic actually disassembled the center post and the bushing in it? if so id like to know if the bushing is made of hard plastic or metal? my mechanic told me i need to replace my bushing to improve steering. he had check and found out that there is some 'play' in it.
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Old 07-30-2006, 08:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys! Thanks for the advice. Here is a short account on the condition of my van.

We removed the whole steering arm and found out that there were some weld at the end of my steering and the added stress it endure during my tight parking last Wednesday bend the metal. We cannot use the parts anymore so I have to buy a whole set at the surplus shop. They might finish the repairs today and reinforce the bracket and the support on the steering box. I ask them if i have to change my tires from 175 to 165 and they've told me with the reinforce bracket, it can handle the job.

I have a question on the full turn of our van. When you steer left or right, you can turn the steering wheel 1 1/2. I know in cars you can do 2 1/2 turn to reach the limit. Is this the right count?

I also bought water pump and belt tensioner(suplus) and my engine is running fine now.

Wala naman akong nakitang plastic parts sa ilalim paschalhatesworms.

Props na lang wallet ko. But i still love my van.

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Old 07-31-2006, 08:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Mr. Pascal, the centerpost bushing is made of rubber with a metal sleeve inside it.
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Mr. Pascal, the centerpost bushing is made of rubber with a metal sleeve inside it.

yes this is the original part/material of centerpost bushing.
share ko lang, when we need to replace the center post bushing, instead of buying the same material for the bushing, we use Ball Bearing instead(not sure if its ball bearing or roller bearing). Here's the part number of the bearing (6904).
I forgot the price of the bearing, pero pinapa-machineshop pa namin ito para mai-mount sa center post. Usually it cost around P500 sa mounting.
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yes this is the original part/material of centerpost bushing.
share ko lang, when we need to replace the center post bushing, instead of buying the same material for the bushing, we use Ball Bearing instead(not sure if its ball bearing or roller bearing). Here's the part number of the bearing (6904).
I forgot the price of the bearing, pero pinapa-machineshop pa namin ito para mai-mount sa center post. Usually it cost around P500 sa mounting.
Weird i was thinking of the same thing!! I though the same din naman principle/operation mas maganda pa kase mas gagaang ang handling. Gumaang ba?
I wanted to do the same way before pa. but you have to still maintail the rubber so it wont be metal to metal right?

thanks for sharing! give us more inputs, i might do the same this time.
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Did your mechanic actually disassembled the center post and the bushing in it? if so id like to know if the bushing is made of hard plastic or metal? my mechanic told me i need to replace my bushing to improve steering. he had check and found out that there is some 'play' in it.
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Had my centerpost bushing replaced with plastic, especially machined by Servitek, cost me only 650 including labor, now no more steering vibrations at highway speeds.
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Had my centerpost bushing replaced with plastic, especially machined by Servitek, cost me only 650 including labor, now no more steering vibrations at highway speeds.
So they fabricated one for you? Which branch of Servitec did you had it done? how was it since (how long have you been running with it)? Im planning to go there if you could give me more info. thanks man
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Had my centerpost bushing replaced with plastic, especially machined by Servitek, cost me only 650 including labor, now no more steering vibrations at highway speeds.
is that "engineering plastic" heheheh buti sa inyo mura lang... 650 including labor.
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