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Old 10-01-2018, 07:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy 2004 alto water leak

hi I have a 2004 alto gl yesterday it over heated I let it cool down refilled the system but it keeps leaking out on the left side underneath but I cant see were its coming from has any one got any ideas please
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Left side when facing the car (offside) the water pump may be leaking take it to a garage and get it pressure tested also the offside end of the inlet mainfold has a water inlet and if the gasket is damaged can leak, be glad you havnt got an early 3 cylinder Matiz (similar design) the end of the PLASTIC induction manifold BLANKS a water hole the early manifold extend 50mm to cover this hole and the damn things WARP giving the same effect as a head gasket leak!!! They sorted this by sawing the end of the manifold off and using a seperate plate and gasket, the older Matiz engines can be adapted by sawing the manifold short and buying the newer fixing kit.
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Just a thought the later 2013 onward with the 3 cylinder engine may have this type of plastic inlet manifold, tell me if Im wrong or similar water blanking using the manifold I have worked on MATIZ 3 cylinder, ALTO 2004/8 with the HA24 1.1 4 cylinder Engine but all the Pacific rim small engines seem to come from the same design shop with variations, be glad the Alto has a crank sensor that reads the edge of the shaft and can be removed from the back of the engine, my wifes Kia Picanto has a windmill that fits on the END of the crankshaft and chops across a sensor the whole damn thing needs removal of the belts and covers to access the chopper plate and the sensor Grrrrr!!!!
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Last point I change my entire engine and gearbox due to clatter from top end and unable to select 3rd on downshift
I checked and removed the cylinder head and there was NO HEAD GASKET LEAK so the culprit was the heater matrix and several old leaky rubber pipes change the lot it isnt expensive
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Last point I change my entire engine and gearbox due to clatter from top end and unable to select 3rd on downshift
I checked and removed the cylinder head and there was NO HEAD GASKET LEAK so the culprit was the heater matrix and several old leaky rubber pipes change the lot it isnt expensive
hi tony thanks for your advice I will get it looked at asap I was hoping it was just a pipe . iv got no hot air coming from the heaters would this be related.
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The original matrix often leaks just inside the car where the hoses waggle and get push on and off they are not really repairable and people start adding radseal until the leak stops which blocks the matrix my old matrix was filled with gunge, If you decide to remove the dash take some masking tape and mark which wire goes where also on the offside there are a couple of similar looking wire make sure they are tagged once they off and you can get at the airboxes and blowers photograph them as you take them apart.
Do all that and it is just an annoying unbolt/screwing unwiring etc when the airbox is out you can remove and refit the matrix then put it all back together, dont forget the passenger airbag I forgot ONE plug and the damn light was on just before the MOT!!!

But Jack the car up on stands and check three things, the water pump, the offside end of the induction manifold and the rubber bend where the metal pipe end and the rubber pipe connects to the back of the engine it is possible to solve a leak around here bunged up your heater so check this area first before committing to replacing the matrix

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hi tony thanks for your advice I will get it looked at asap I was hoping it was just a pipe . iv got no hot air coming from the heaters would this be related.
yep! clogged heater core will cause this.
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